Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors
by WalterBright on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @03:54PM
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Have you ever noticed that pump gas prices vary every day? That's demand shaping. It works.
> Building lots of charging stations at employer parking lots is also a new cost, that doesn't get counted against renewables.
The cost needs to be compared with building grid storage batteries.
Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors
by DennisP on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @04:44PM
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It also needs to be included in comparisons with the cost of nuclear.
Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors
by fulafel on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:57AM
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> Any factory wants to run full-speed 24/7
Many factories don't run 24/7. And yet more factories don't run their most energy intensive processes continuously even when they factory is "running".
Same principle applies to most things. If electricity stops being readily available all the time, then you're introducing a new constraint that people have to optimize for. If that means they change their behavior, then they're doing something more expensive than whatever they were doing before, when they optimized without that constraint.
That extra cost generally isn't figured into the optimistic estimates of how cheap renewables are, but it's still a cost that society pays.
Building lots of charging stations at employer parking lots is also a new cost, that doesn't get counted against renewables.