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Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors by toomuchtodo on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @11:01PM (#29170932)
To demonstrate that I’m arguing in good faith, I will bet you a $1000 donation to a charity of your choice if any developed country successfully commissions a new commercial nuclear generator (with energy actively supplied to a grid connection), that has not yet broken ground as of today, within ten years of this comment’s timestamp.

I’m not splitting hairs, I’m arguing very clearly that nuclear won’t get built, it won’t be needed, alternatives will meet demand, and that energy consumption and generation modeling by a variety of energy analysts (across commercial and academic institutions) supports my thesis.

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Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors by johncolanduoni on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @11:47PM (#29171183)
You’re not betting directly on either of the issues being discussed though. The person you’re arguing with made no claim that anti-nuclear advocates won’t be successful, only that intermittent renewables plus storage won’t allow hitting near term decarbonization targets. It’s kind of weird for you to win the bet if you’re wrong about the actual issue in the most dire way…
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Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors by godelski on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @01:22AM (#29171668)
> only that intermittent renewables plus storage won’t _LIKELY_ allow hitting near term decarbonization targets

FTFY

But yes, I think you are more accurately capturing my response. And thanks for the defense.

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Re:Macron says France will build new nuclear energy reactors by godelski on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @11:35PM (#29171129)
I'm not going to take that bet because I don't have faith in the political will to follow science. That is a more general trend than just climate, mind you. Practically, I do agree with you, that we likely aren't going to see reactors built. But I do want to say that this is contrary to the advice from the scientific community. I do think it is important to push back on claims like yours though, because part of the political will is because a lot of people believe that this is in line with the scientific consensus (again, a common problem and why I call out armchair experts a lot).
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