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Re:The popularity of e-bikes isn’t slowing down by pmontra on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @05:59AM (#29160080)
Same in Italy.

It means that a ciclyst on an ebike can outperform a group of friends with normal bikes on an slope but can't stay with them on the way back home and they'll have to wait. I experienced that and it's not nice. The two types of bikes mix well only in low intensity sightseeing rides.

Re:The popularity of e-bikes isn’t slowing down by namdnay on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @07:06AM (#29160548)
well, only if the friends are keen cyclists with road bikes.

no commuter in shirt and trousers with saddlebags for the laptop etc is going to be running at more than 25kmh

Re:The popularity of e-bikes isn’t slowing down by pmontra on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @12:49PM (#29164846)
Of course. We were slowly pedaling uphill with road bikes and our friend was speeding in front of us. But we had to wait on the way back home because we could do easily 30 km/h on the last 20 km (completely flat) and his engine cut off at 25.