Re:The Melancholy of Subculture Society (2019)
by ghaff on Monday November 08, 2021 @12:30AM
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"In some sense" is what gets interesting :-) But I agree that both fall into an interesting (if probably not ultimately very important) area of ambiguity in US constitutional law and common law.
Re:The Melancholy of Subculture Society (2019)
by mellavora on Monday November 08, 2021 @03:47AM
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Not so ambiguous. Born on a US military base counts as US soil.
Re:The Melancholy of Subculture Society (2019)
by ghaff on Monday November 08, 2021 @11:12AM
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No it is not:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/records-and-authe...
The arguments as I recall were basically two-fold: 1.) At the time, it was the Canal Zone (which wasn't quite US soil but maybe close enough) and 2.) There were some long-standing common law precedents related to agents of the king, diplomats, etc.
The more interesting story is that of Ted Cruz, who had a noncitizen father and was born in Canada.