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Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by judge2020 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @01:15AM (#29137001)
More so, how would they tell a phone with radios disabled to turn on a radio, besides physical access?
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by bbarnett on Sunday November 07, 2021 @03:35AM (#29137521)
By telling the radio firmware to do so?

edit: the sim can tell the radio to turn on, when it wants to send a message.

It is a full blown computer, with direct access to the radio firmware, with no OS oversight.

The radio firmware can be updated remotely, too, and the OS only knows the modem is on, because the firmware tells it so.

The icon on your phone showing signal/on/off is displayed by the OS, after querying the firmware. The OS has no way to know if the radio is on or not.

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by vermilingua on Sunday November 07, 2021 @03:51AM (#29137608)
Yes but from where is this command originating? Can't be remote because well... the radio is off.
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by PeterisP on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:21AM (#29137761)
It can be remote but shifted in time. E.g. send a remote command that essentially says "if in airplane mode, every 60 minutes turn radio on and check for new commands".
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by LexGray on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:32AM (#29138137)
That would cause major issues in areas where phones are forbidden for national security or sensitive equipment reasons from having antennas active. I've never heard a report that a manufacturer has even considered that idea as it could potentially cost them major damages.
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by PeterisP on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:59AM (#29138288)
Of course, that's not something that a legitimate manufacturer would have in their standard firmware.

However, that is a possibility for specific malicious firmware uploaded to some "phone of interest" to prevent its user from protecting themselves by turning on airplane mode.