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Re:Pop _OS to use it own desktop environment, written in Rust by kitsunesoba on Saturday November 06, 2021 @02:00PM (#29132338)
I think GNOME actually gets a lot right, perhaps even more than KDE for the average use case, but has a few high visibility misses and perhaps suffers from muddled focus by trying to also accommodate smartphones.

With a few key changes like bringing back the minimize button by default, integrating the dash-to-dock extension by default, and dropping the crusade against proper menubars it’d be easily the most well rounded and DE with the most usable out-of-the-box experience.

KDE shares the problem of muddled focus between desktop and mobile, but instead of lacking functionality instead has issues with its design feeling somewhat amateur, as well as bad defaults. KDE can be great if tuned extensively but without tuning it’s a mess.

I do agree that’s it’s good to have more players in the DE space, because no existing option has fully cracked it and more options is always good. It would be nice if more DEs shared work between each other (is it really necessary for there to be 3+ forks of Nautilus?) but oh well.

What I want to see most is a new UI library. Qt is nice from a technical perspective, but it being tied to C++ and thus lacking quality, up to date, idiomatic bindings for other languages really hurts it, as does its licensing shuffle. GTK is wonderfully flexible because it has bindings for almost every language ever, but comes with frequent breaking changes and forced GNOMEisms, and feels awkward outside of Linux. The ideal UI library would have GTK’s flexibility with QT’s technical strengths and platform adaptivity.

Re:Pop _OS to use it own desktop environment, written in Rust by turbinerneiter on Saturday November 06, 2021 @02:23PM (#29132561)
I always had dash to dock and all the other small common tweaks that everyone makes.

Until about a half year ago, when I decided to stay vanilla on a fresh install. After a week, I forgot why I needed all these tweaks.

I think the far majority people, myself included, can't even tell the difference in UX quality (as long as it is above a certain level) and will mostly like or dislike based on what they are used to.

Re:Pop _OS to use it own desktop environment, written in Rust by esarbe on Saturday November 06, 2021 @03:22PM (#29133050)
I think you hit it spot on.
Re:Pop _OS to use it own desktop environment, written in Rust by thevagrant on Saturday November 06, 2021 @06:29PM (#29134429)
Personally I think if KDE had half the resources that were put into Gnome by various distros over the years, Linux desktop would be a solved problem.

So System76 is going to go NIH. Let's see how that goes.