Re:What collective narcissism does to society
by wpietri on Saturday November 06, 2021 @07:25PM
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> Well, this isn't about individuals though, it's about groups.
Sure. I was talking about individuals in that sentence setting up for a later pivot to groups.
> groups have legitimate political and material grievances against one another, not just "narcissistic" ones
Yes, this is a thing I also agree with. And basically said. I don't get why you're writing as if you're contradicting me.
> Well, that's the case with the North too,
In some ways with some groups at some times, yes. But that isn't proof that group-level narcissism doesn't exist. Indeed, it is evidence for it.
Well, this isn't about individuals though, it's about groups.
And groups have legitimate political and material grievances against one another, not just "narcissistic" ones, as if everything is perfect in the most perfect of possible worlds.
>In my opinion, that's bonkers. To make one's own identity and purpose so deeply based in the inferiority of another group is fucking deranged.
Well, that's the case with the North too, and the whole American experiment was established on this, and continues on the same path: on the superiority religious zealots thrown out of Europe (and later immigrants adopted into their culture cult) claim against other countries. "Greatest country in the world", "Manifest destiny", "Home of the free", "leader of the free world", and so on.