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Re:Ask HN: Where would you start looking for development cli... by TekMol on Saturday November 06, 2021 @09:29AM (#29130029)
I am not sure if I understand your point correctly. Are you implying that clients only hire beginners on UpWork?

I am hiring there and I certainly have to pay way more than $5 per hour. My experience is that the price for software development starts at about $25/hour. That is for a student with a little bit of experience and rather low morale. Devs with actual work experience start at about $50 per hour. Again, morale will be kinda low at that price. For a really smart, motivated dev with a lot of experience, you have to pay more.

Re:Ask HN: Where would you start looking for development cli... by rl1987 on Saturday November 06, 2021 @11:23AM (#29130984)
Doesn't it matter where is the developer from? There's a lot of places in the world where $50/hr is way above local market rates, but is it easy for a developer outside US or UK to make that much on Upwork?
Re:Ask HN: Where would you start looking for development cli... by ahartmetz on Saturday November 06, 2021 @10:21AM (#29130409)
> Are you implying that clients only hire beginners on UpWork?

Well, low quality work. Yes. But, unlike you, I have only internet hearsay as sources.

Re:Ask HN: Where would you start looking for development cli... by Grimm1 on Saturday November 06, 2021 @10:33AM (#29130500)
I wound up not taking it because I had something that at the time seemed easier for me, but I negotiated a $100/hr contract on UpWork just fine looking for some part time work to hold me over on something. This was in the Data Engineering space fwiw.
Re:Ask HN: Where would you start looking for development cli... by ahartmetz on Sunday November 07, 2021 @02:35PM (#29142676)
Good to hear. Note, I'm a freelancer as well, so my information is only incomplete about Upwork. I know the local (Germany) agencies with the usual rates, 75-100€/h for C++ work.