I mean come on, if the administration of the vaccine caused it, the vaccine caused it. If he hadn't gotten the vaccine, it would not have been (as conjectured) injected into his bloodstream.

Fact is, how it gets injected appears to have a very significant influence on it's impact to the patient.

There is a clear distinction here; namely, whether the vaccine was improperly used.

Taking too much Tylonol can cause liver failure. Too much Ibuprofen can cause renal failure...

In those cases, the drug was improperly used, but the cause analysis centers on improper use, because doing that multiplies the risk and symptom severity.

See how that all works?

Saying the "vaccine caused it" simply is not enough information, which is why I linked what I did.

It is important that we get these discussions right.

Edit:

In the interest of accuracy, note I did not say the vaccine did not cause the trouble. I said it probably did not cause it, and I said improper injection probably did.

Neither is an absolute. I did not intend, nor mean to imply otherwise. What I did intend was to improve on the clarity, scope and accuracy of the discussion.

Why bother?

Better discussion means more informed people taking fewer risks and or making more good choices, all of which will improve law, costs, outcomes.

Getting back to the matter at hand, when we factor the elements down, we see one thing we can do right away, and that is we make damn sure we are administering vaccines properly.

There are risks with the vaccine. They are small by percentage, but they are there. No argument from me.

Those risks go up dramatically with improper injection; namely, it being delivered directly to the blood stream, which is entirely avoidable.

That's a fair point. It seems to me like the government is pressuring people into taking a vaccine that isn't being properly administered en masse, and all the parties involved are both protected from liability and aren't being transparent about it, all to mitigate a trivial amount of risk.

I just saw an article yesterday talking about Pfizer making $36 billion on vaccines this year.

I see it that way too.

We do not have absolutes to work with here.

The damn Covid is novel, meaning we get our education together, the hard way and that sucks.

And that means being smart about probabilities and potential cost and risk outcomes matters a lot! Doing that is harder than necessary too.

A small investment in proper injection can seriously reduce vaccine risks, for example. That is real news as far as I am concerned and that should be acted on STAT. And you just gotta know the optics on all that complicate and likely bias action away from optimal too.

My own first injection was not done properly. (By that I mean the person doing it did not do a blood vessel check.)

I made sure the second one was done properly.

I very seriously oppose the blanket immunity myself for similar reasons.

The profit drive on this is pretty ugly too, and it is a complicated discussion. Very generally, I must say the problem is global and allowing profit to drive policy is not doing humanity any favors.

There is a whole lot to be said... but, maybe another day.

Frankly, our current body politic is very seriously ill.

Trust is low.

Because of all that, I personally am paying close attention to how I handle my part in it and am reluctant to judge anyone else.

I am usually reluctant anyway, because what I feel should be obvious reasons! But yeah, extra care is indicated right now.

Best move, in my view as a normie out there wanting to be a good human, is to try and understand one another better, avoid judgement and the usual fear, blame and shame, talk more and hopefully more of us make smarter choices and see lower risks and better outcomes more of the time as this all plays out.

Pretty sure that is as good as it all gets right now.

Really sorry about what happened too.

Sucks :(

Sure hope he improves and can get past it.

That's actually the theory I developed the first time myocarditis in skinny teenagers was reported many months ago. It just makes sense that spike protein mRNA is getting shotgunned into their heart muscle cells. So, I was rather disillusioned when I saw that theory finally pop up in the news in the last month.

Saying the vaccine didn't cause the myocarditis because it was "injected wrong" isn't a compelling argument to me, or likely to anyone that's thinking rationally.

I hear that. You are not wrong, in my view.

The discussion is complex and difficult enough as it is.

People struggling with it should be expected and handled with tact and candor far more than it is right now.