Re:Our self imposed scarcity of nice places
by jseban on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:20AM
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Yeah but now you are optimising for the minority case at the expense of making the most common case worse.
Re:Our self imposed scarcity of nice places
by crooked-v on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:27AM
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The most common case is that I'm picking up about three days' worth of ingredients at a time, in which case I walk either five or eight minutes (depending on which shop has the better stuff for my list) and carry home one large grocery bag. Since I don't need to worry about parking or traffic, I can fit this into my schedule whenever and usually do so when I'm already on my way home from somewhere else.
The actual minority case is that I'm picking up something in bulk (replacing pantry stock, getting supplies for a party, etc), in which case I might switch to using my car, depending on how heavy or unwieldy it is for a half-mile walk.
Re:Our self imposed scarcity of nice places
by jseban on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:37AM
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Three days of ingredients is a lot, with your toilet paper and laundry detergent and everything, this breaks down immediately if you're only two people. So if you are a couple then both of you have to go shopping, that's twice the time you spend. Not to mention if you are a family
Re:Our self imposed scarcity of nice places
by crooked-v on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:55AM
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Three days of food ingredients for two people isn't actually a lot, assuming you already have bulk staples (flour, sugar, rice, etc) in your pantry. I'm already including all the other incidentals outside of bulk staples: add occasional toilet paper rolls, paper towels, olive oil and vinegar, minor snacks, etc, and you get the one large grocery bag on average per trip. Maybe two if you're eating things that are bulky to carry (e.g. kale or something with a ton of eggs).
Like, come on. No typical two-person household is going through a full package of toilet paper and an entire mid-sized bottle of laundry detergent every three days.
Re:Our self imposed scarcity of nice places
by jseban on Thursday November 04, 2021 @06:16AM
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So you mean it works if you assume that all the heavy stuff you "already have" somehow. Ok, not exactly convinced..
Re:Our self imposed scarcity of nice places
by bondarchuk on Thursday November 04, 2021 @06:18AM
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Dude, you have 15 comments in this thread arguing against other people's preferred way of grocery shopping. Let it go.
Just the other day I was about to start cooking but realized I was out of butter, so I walked about 5 minutes to a nearby store, got some, and walked back. It would have literally taken me more time and effort to drive to a store nearby with parking than just walking. The same holds for most household basics (paper towels, garbage bags, etc), for which I have about a dozen options within 15 minutes of my home, ranging from cramped bodega-type stores to large grocery stores.
> You rely on cars/trucks indirectly anyway, that bring the groceries to your closest store, and deliver your packages so what's the different
First, basic efficiency of scale when it comes to general impact on the environment; second, as I mention above, it would literally take me longer to do it all with a car than just walk.