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Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by Someone1234 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:40AM (#29095317)
And move to what?

Your choices are:

- Run it yourself: And get eaten alive by third party anti-spam products. Maintaining a mail server is a full time job.

- Move to another large corporation (e.g. Apple, Microsoft, et al). What have you solved exactly?

- Move to a small mail provider and hope they don't go under (and you lose your x year old email address associated with tons of stuff) or have security issues because they didn't/couldn't afford the expertise.

The "least bad" option right now just seems to be to spread yourself around, so you're not too invested in any one vendor (in particular in case they ban you randomly for reasons they won't disclose or discuss).

Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by BeetleB on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @12:09PM (#29096609)
Chiming in with what everyone is saying:

1. Have your own domain name.

2. Use a small-ish mail provider that supports IMAP, etc.

3. Store all your emails/folders on a device (laptop, whatever). This way if the provider locks you out or goes under, it's easy to switch to another.

Has worked since what, the 80's? Personally been doing this since before Gmail existed. Ironically I chose this route precisely because the major providers (Yahoo, etc) were too unreliable for me - I had lost accounts multiple times because some of the (then) top mail providers decided to get out of the mail business and/or regressed their featureset so much that it hurt.

Of all the Internet services, this is the easiest one for someone to own.

Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by Semaphor on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:47AM (#29095421)
HN’s darling fastmail has been around for 22 years, I somewhat doubt they’d randomly go under.

On the other hand they are small enough to certainly be hurt by concentrated DDoS attacks as it’s been happening the last week.

Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by dannyw on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:07AM (#29095729)
Domain name with Namecheap, Gandi, $your_favorite_registrar.

Mail provider with any small provider.

Use Thunderbird, it's honestly better that it has been in maintenance-only mode for a decade and isn't being "innovated".

Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by nojs on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:45AM (#29095395)
D) go with any vendor but use your own domain. That way if you get randomly banned or they go under you still have the address, and it mostly solves issues with deliverability/being spam filtered.
Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by johndough on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @12:09PM (#29096608)
That only shifts the issue from having to trust Google to having to trust the domain registrar. It does not solve the underlying problem.
Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by throw63738 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:13PM (#29097537)
you can register domain on your own name.
Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by marginalia_nu on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:59AM (#29095613)
> Move to a small mail provider and hope they don't go under (and you lose your x year old email address associated with tons of stuff) or have security issues because they didn't/couldn't afford the expertise.

You can also just use an email client that downloads the emails you get, and then point your MX-records to another provider if and when your provider goes belly up.

Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by tomjen3 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @12:23PM (#29096807)
I will never again create an email that matters for a domain I don't control. I learned that lesson with my nerdshack account.
Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by malka on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:10AM (#29095769)
I use my own domain + small mail provider. If they go under, I just need to change DNS records.
Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by dmw_ng on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:49AM (#29096312)
> The "least bad" option right now just seems to be to spread yourself around

Sounds about right. For e-mail I'm using SES for outbound on my domain, and.. of all things.. Yandex Mail for inbound. SES doesn't seem to have any problem with spam filters, Yandex OTOH, it's definitely a temporary solution, I'm only using it for POP3, but their webmail is also fairly cute. Yandex outbound is treated as spam by basically everything except Yandex

Re:Google introduces mandatory 2-Step Verification for Googl... by stOneskull on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:44AM (#29095383)
i find migadu great, using my own domain names