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Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by JKCalhoun on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:15AM (#29094893)
Sounds like the relevant devs you mention just need to shoot the other a heads-up.

The first 25 years of my career as a programmer we never had daily stand-ups, had never heard of them. We shipped.

Something about all the "process" that has crept into the job over the last decade or so has really turned me off.

Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by johanneskanybal on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:24AM (#29095027)
This is the truth of course. Developers develop in spite of the current process management buzz word not because of it. With that said a daily 15 min standup seems to strike a reasonable balance for me/us personally between creating awareness within the team that might not have come up otherwise whilst not stealing too much time.
Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by 0des on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:21AM (#29094982)
I feel what you said about the 'process' creeping in, however, if you don't mind, allow me to counter: My first N years had no version control, but that is not sufficient in my opinion to say it hasn't improved things.
Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by JKCalhoun on Thursday November 04, 2021 @08:36AM (#29106354)
Version control benefited devs, other processes that has crept in less so.
Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by seanw444 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @04:04PM (#29099603)
Yeah, it's turned it from a more creative process into more of an assembly line sweatshop. All of the new excessive formalities bug me.
Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by NikolaeVarius on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:08AM (#29095738)
Yep, I love yeeting everything into master branch. Fuck process
Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by JKCalhoun on Thursday November 04, 2021 @08:45AM (#29106444)
What are branches?

Seriously, it was only "main" when I started at Apple 26 years ago. Our version control was such that when someone wanted to edit a file it was "checked out", locked to others on the team, until it was checked back in.

It worked surprisingly well (obviously no merge conflicts for one thing). I doubt anyone would suggest going back to something as simplistic (but I have to admit Git feels way too complicated than it should at times).

Re:Are daily standups hurting your team? by spacedcowboy on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:54AM (#29096387)
I too was coding 30 years or so ago. Back then we may not have had git, but we certainly had RCS and I recall switching to CVS.

There's a huge difference between a "daily progress meeting" and "sensible development". I too have seen a lot of process creeping into things and I'm glad I'm getting close to retirement.