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Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by scott_w on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @01:10PM (#29084160)
Just a small thing here: you wrapped up two things in one sentence.

> people tend to hate the wrecking ball who doesn't participate in 2:00pm office beers

The former (wrecking ball), people will tend to hate. The latter (beers), people should be fine with. I speak from experience on this.

Find out why people perceive you as a wrecking ball and change your behaviour to not actively antagonise your colleagues.

If you do this and it’s not drinking beer in the office that’s holding you back, I’d seriously look for alternative employment. The good news is you’ll be infinitely more employable as a result.

Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by folkhack on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @01:27PM (#29084446)
So the wrecking ball thing is just a turn-of-phrase that means "someone who knocks it down" - ie: the person getting it done. It's not necessarily meant as a negative nor derogatory term, it's the person who shows up on-time to work and is nose-down and very effective. Or at least culturally, that's how I meant it and what it meant growing up.

To scratch at it, yeah I'm painting myself here a bit because I'm very annoyed at having to socialize in an office vs. just being able to show up and work. 100% I would rather work through my afternoons than go do team building activities - those things have been more about weird in-group "culture fit" crap vs. growing closer to my coworkers. Going from being a professional in Iowa where this didn't happen as much to California where "tech-bro" is a thing... well let's just say way more weird socializing happens out here.

> If you do this and it’s not drinking beer in the office that’s holding you back, I’d seriously look for alternative employment. The good news is you’ll be infinitely more employable as a result.

Exactly - and that's exactly what I did in the anecdotal situation I outlined above. I promise you though, many places are like this and you will ostracize yourself if you make the same mistakes I did. Keeping your nose down while everyone else is making their buddies is a very bad idea. Apparently, I'm paid to drink, go play minigolf, and race gokarts - sure this sounds like it's awesome to a lot of folks but for this middle aged engineer I just want to finish the work and go home. I have a damn family.

Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by randycupertino on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:32AM (#29091397)
> I'm very annoyed at having to socialize in an office vs. just being able to show up and work. 100% I would rather work through my afternoons than go do team building activities

This is part of the reason I felt like work from home was kind of "the great equalizer" via the way it took those who coast by on social capital down and increased the visibility of the non-social high producers. At my firm at least we laid off some middle management who were highly visible but weren't big contributors for specific deliverables during the pandemic.

Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by michaelt on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @04:23PM (#29086883)
I've got to say, I've never heard "wrecking ball" used as a positive description before.
Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by Talanes on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @07:55PM (#29089224)
> Or at least culturally, that's how I meant it and what it meant growing up.

Outside of that particular bubble, "wrecking ball" carries inherently destructive connotations. Even in positive usage, I've only seen it used to convey creative destruction.

Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by irrational on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @01:27PM (#29084447)
I read wrecking ball as just being the person who didn’t want to participate in drinking and so was perceived as a party pooper. Not as someone actively destroying things.
Re:People prefer friendliness, trustworthiness in teammates ... by folkhack on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @01:30PM (#29084510)
Yep - just someone keeping their nose down actively working their butt off to chip away at their workload.