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Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by tick_tock_tick on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:09PM (#29071465)
Yes, and so what?? Find me a Western nation that would really take China over the USA. Do you really believe a world under a Chinese hegemony would be better?
Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by justicezyx on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:23PM (#29071675)
The point is that we should get rid of hegemony and build a democratic international society. Not that letting someone replace USA...

Of course Chinese hegemony is no better. Any hegemony is no better than another...

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by nlittlepoole on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:52PM (#29072102)
Yeah but that's realistically not an option that is on the table. A decent part of the American electorate is not interested in that because honestly it doesn't benefit us directly. The choices today for most countries are the same as it was in 1945, side with the US, side with the communist, or be "non aligned" and have your government/infrastructure undermined by intelligence from both sides.
Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by justicezyx on Monday November 01, 2021 @08:57PM (#29075510)
Why aiming for international democracy is not an option?

You didn't explain that.

And please, stop using communists to refer to anything on earth. There is no such thing as communist nowadays. If you think there is a communist in China, that person probably will be shunned as one would be in USA...

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by ravel-bar-foo on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:35PM (#29076659)
What is international democracy? We currently have the UN, but in practice it draws on the resources of the US to enforce its decisions (such as Iran sanctions).

So what system do you have to propose, and how is it better? Remember that your explanation must explain how International Democracy avoids interacts with conflict between nations, how it maintains the global economy, in particular the safety of the shipping lanes and banking systems / currency exchanges. You must be able to adjudicate border disputes and prevent large nations from claiming large swaths of sea as territory. You must be able to explain how your system avoids becoming a tyranny of the richest, strongest, or most cunning states, as well as how it remains stable and doesn't become anarchy.

Good luck.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by justicezyx on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @12:10AM (#29076961)
International democracy is just what it denotes on the name, applying democracy principles between nations.

As the first step, let's make sure everyone goes through UN for any cross national conflict. Like if US unilaterally invade Iraq, US should be sanctioned according to some agreed upon rules. Etc etc.

When you say UN works because of US support, that's a problem. UN needs to hold actual power, not at the mercy of a few super powers.

One step to allow UN actual power, is to grant UN the ability to draft financial resources from member nations, and let UN invest on the behalf of all people on earth.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by echlebek on Monday November 01, 2021 @12:25PM (#29068937)
Whataboutism. Canada has little to fear from US hegemony and a lot to fear from Chinese hegemony, it's as simple as that.
Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by throwaway21_ on Monday November 01, 2021 @12:45PM (#29069276)
Nobody cares what Canada fears or not.

Simple fact is that there's no Chinese hegemony now and there won't be one in foreseeable future because there's existing hegemon that won't just give up.

btw one man's whataboutism is another man's uncovering of hypocrisy.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by tick_tock_tick on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:11PM (#29071493)
> btw one man's whataboutism is another man's uncovering of hypocrisy.

They didn't say anything about the USA hegemony being bad just that they didn't want a Chinese one. How is that hypocrisy?

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by 908B64B197 on Monday November 01, 2021 @02:09PM (#29070540)
> and ignoring 750 US bases worldwide and all the misery they brought all around the world

The alternative being Russian (or rather, USSR) bases.

Yeah, pretty sure citizens of the countries with bases would rather have the US as a partner rather than the alternative.