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Re:Visual Git by blowski on Monday November 01, 2021 @09:57AM (#29066657)
My theory as to why this happens.

1. You write some code.

2. You write a duplicate of #1.

3. You write another duplicate of #1, so you should refactor. But the PM doesn't understand why you're changing the code you made in #1 and #2 as part of ticket #3.

So the jaded devs are certain the duplication will occur, but believe their choice is either to pre-emptively fix the duplication at #1, or never to fix it at all.

Re:Visual Git by berkes on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:14AM (#29067749)
> But the PM doesn't understand why you're changing the code you made

If that is the case, the PM does not understand red-green-refactor, always-refactoring, or even just plain refactoring. I'd say the PM doesn't even understand the idea of technical debt, in that case.

The problem is certainly the PM's disconnect to how to keep a codebase (and their team) sane in the most common programming practices. And not the refactoring itself.

Re:Visual Git by blowski on Monday November 01, 2021 @02:00PM (#29070415)
I agree with that assessment on the surface. But it's a sign of a generally unhealthy team, not just a poor PM (although the poor PM might be the root cause).