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Re:It's hard to overstate what a scam academic and scientifi... by civilized on Monday November 01, 2021 @08:43AM (#29066001)
> Depending on which metrics you choose to look at[1], China currently leads research output, and by a long stretch, over the US.

Nobody who knows anything of the content of the research underlying those metrics takes this seriously.

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Re:It's hard to overstate what a scam academic and scientifi... by krageon on Monday November 01, 2021 @09:50AM (#29066609)
China does produce some very interesting computing-related papers FWIW. The few times I've been able to get an english version (or to have one translated) I was not under the impression they were qualitatively significantly worse than from any other place. Arguably that isn't hard because most papers in the field are absolute garbage, but I don't go into a paper expecting that to be the case.
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Re:It's hard to overstate what a scam academic and scientifi... by nuerow on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:39AM (#29068170)
> Nobody who knows anything of the content of the research underlying those metrics takes this seriously.

To be very charitable in my interpretation, your personal assertion is simply presumptuous and outright wrong. China outright dominates research in some key fields[1], and in some fields it's outright impossible to search through topics without getting search hits from china.

[1] https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/China-s-research...

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Re:It's hard to overstate what a scam academic and scientifi... by civilized on Monday November 01, 2021 @12:56PM (#29069455)
Tell me with a straight face that counting papers without regard to impact or journal is a good way to measure research impact.

Do you have any idea what they do to game those metrics?

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