Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by lotsofpulp on Monday November 01, 2021 @06:46AM
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> middle class: I make money on my mortgage. I see my 1.22% 20 years fixed mortgage melt away against a salary that is raising with inflation. Plus I get rewarded by government with a tax deduction. Similar story for our rental.
The mortgage interest tax deduction only applies if you itemize, which literally 90% of people do not do as of 2019 IRS statistics. Effectively, there is no mortgage interest tax deduction for middle class since the 2017 tax cut ACA jobs act.
Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by markvdb on Monday November 01, 2021 @07:06AM
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I don't live in the US. Plenty of places have some form of mortgage fiscal stimulus. Even without the fiscal advantage, I would still be making money on this.
Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by disgruntledphd2 on Monday November 01, 2021 @07:51AM
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> see my 1.22% 20 years fixed mortgage melt away
Wow, if you don't live in the US, where are you getting a 20 year fixed rate?
Honestly just curious as I thought those were really only a US thing.
Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by markvdb on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:14AM
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The mortgage is in Belgium. Friends have even lower fixed rates. Some others have negative interest rates on their adjustable ones. Their bank literally pays them.
Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @05:51AM
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Wow, I'd heard about that but it seems so alien to me here in ireland (we get at best 2% ten year fixed, and that's only under certain circumstances).
Mind you, it's literally impossible to get evicted from your primary home here, which is presumably what drives the differences.
Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by tekknik on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @11:34AM
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> Their bank literally pays them.
How does this work? Do they get a free house and a check cut monthly? Or is the mortgage cheaper than what it would have been?
Re:Skimpflation: A reason inflation is worse than the govern...
by lotsofpulp on Monday November 01, 2021 @07:23AM
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My bad. I did not know anywhere else offered mortgage incentives. Chalked tax deduction up to being uniquely US way of implementing regressive taxes.
- lower middle class/poor: A cleaner working hand-to-mouth taking a payday loan isn't inflation hedging. She's paying through the nose for the privilege of a 33% loan because she's a risky debtor.
- middle class: I make money on my mortgage. I see my 1.22% 20 years fixed mortgage melt away against a salary that is raising with inflation. Plus I get rewarded by government with a tax deduction. Similar story for our rental.
- rich: Elon Musk can live off margin loans against a fraction of his investment portfolio if and when it makes sense.