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Re:Most Covid-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions by throwawaylinux on Monday November 01, 2021 @02:02AM (#29063459)
No, because vaccinated people have protection from a safe and effective vaccine, vaccinated people can spread the disease as well, and also if they are still worried they can choose to isolate themselves at home if they wish. Extremely high vaccination rates have repeatedly shown not to eliminate outbreaks.

So the argument has shifted to the load on the healthcare system. Unvaccinated people are a risk they claim because they might create hospital shortages and therefore be allegedly responsible for the death of others.

Same as overweight people.

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Re:Most Covid-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions by zuminator on Monday November 01, 2021 @02:36AM (#29063656)
Overweight people per se don't create hospital shortages. You can argue that obesity is a huge expense overall but it's a predictable and manageable one. It doesn't generally cause sudden spikes in medical utilization in the way a pandemic or epidemic can.
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Re:Most Covid-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions by throwawaylinux on Monday November 01, 2021 @02:54AM (#29063747)
Unvaccinated people per se don't create hospital shortages either.

> You can argue that obesity is a huge expense overall but it's a predictable and manageable one.

I can argue that it is a huge expense that costs society and impacts service to others, and may absolutely contribute to shortages, and therefore is a fine analogy to use when exploring the merits of the covid response.

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Re:Most Covid-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions by timeon on Monday November 01, 2021 @07:44AM (#29065458)
> Unvaccinated people per se don't create hospital shortages either.

Except they do.

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Re:Most Covid-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions by throwawaylinux on Monday November 01, 2021 @09:31AM (#29066426)
No they don't. Hospitalizations do. Which are people who contract covid. Which includes vaccinated and unvaccinated people. And hospitalization rates are higher in people with other issues like obesity.
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