Re:Overcoming Bias: ‘The Profit’ Socialism Challenge
by kaibee on Sunday October 31, 2021 @05:36PM
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Tbh, I have no idea who 'on the left' you could be talking about (except Sinema I guess)? The labor side of the Democratic party has been enemic for the last 50 years.
Re:Overcoming Bias: ‘The Profit’ Socialism Challenge
by door103 on Sunday October 31, 2021 @06:04PM
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> China did well after adopting a capitalist economic model. Not so well after adopting a communist economic model.
Let's be clear here -- regardless what you think of the Chinese government, they are far from a "capitalist economic model". Many major industries are nationalized, the state plays an enormous role in the economy. 60% of their economy by market cap is state-owned. It isn't Soviet-style or Mao-era socialism, but it is still a very different system than western capitalism. It's similar to the NEP era in the USSR (1921-1928)
They still maintain the party dictatorship.
Really what matters for dominance is a disciplined party apparatus that seizes power in some kind of coup or revolution and then rules the country with an iron fist.
The party may use a justification of envy -- appealing to people's anger that others have more than they do -- or it may use religion, or moral arguments, or national pride arguments. But those are all instrumental to the underlying aim of power.
Once you are in power, you can impose capitalism or communism or some mix. If communism doesn't work, you can discard it and look for something better.
It's interesting that many on the left just dropped working class issues like a used shirt and refocused on race with extreme ease. For me personally, that's how I distinguish between a group that wants power as opposed to a group that is advocating for some policy profile. If they can switch out the policy profile and replace it with something different, then they were never that interested in policy to begin with.