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Re:Seeding oceans with volcanic ash could be new tool to tac... by dr_dshiv on Sunday October 31, 2021 @11:21AM (#29057612)
Sounds like your perspective is that human consumption is fundamentally the problem. Doesn’t this perspective lead to a pretty bleak future?
Re:Seeding oceans with volcanic ash could be new tool to tac... by lwouis on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @09:47PM (#29090170)
My proposition is that we have to deal with our scale if we don't want to be the bacterias that took over the petri dish and died because they made their environment toxic for themselves.

We have never had to care so far because we were not numerous. Now human activity is similar to geological forces like rain/volcanoes/etc and i think we should plan how we can exist on a stable cycle.

Mindless growth leads to us breaking our environment through our scale. Scale is exponential so after thousands of years we have a small window of 100 years where we grew so high in impact that we may break it all. It's a first for us, and i hope we can see further than the mold in the petri dish and make a concerted plan on how to live in a stable cycle without growing.

I'm advocating for planning a sustainable future. It's the first time in History we have to deal with this. People assume the future is like the past, and other incorrect things. They also live in cities, removed from physical realities. They only understand the collapse of species through some stats in a newspaper they forget the next day, and the energy/resources supply chains are unknown to them until there is a blackout and they lose internet for a few hours.

The future seems bleak in many ways for physical reasons. I don't think pretending we are not reaching planetary limits will help. I think it will make the fall harder. I would rather we concert and plan together what level of quality of life we want, and how we can stabilize our population, so we can cycle generations of human in a sustainable way.

Re:Seeding oceans with volcanic ash could be new tool to tac... by 71a54xd on Sunday October 31, 2021 @02:57PM (#29059357)
By his logic the simpler option is just to make living more difficult and to ultimately find ways to kill dumb consumers faster? We could just start heavily incentivizing vaping, smoking and alcohol consumption? Pushing contraceptives is also a big one, you might even start chipping at the goals of the elites if you slowed population growth AND reduced consumerism...
Re:Seeding oceans with volcanic ash could be new tool to tac... by walleeee on Sunday October 31, 2021 @11:29AM (#29057665)
whether or not it's consumption in particular it's undeniably human activity that's the problem

business as usual leads to a pretty bleak future and if we refuse to confront this how will we even begin to adapt to a planet rapidly growing more difficult to inhabit