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Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by inglor_cz on Sunday October 31, 2021 @07:02AM (#29056117)
Much like all biotech, the spectrum of use from truly (positively) transformative to the outright dystopian is very wide.

Can a similar implant be required for schoolchildren in order not to doubt what the teachers tell them to think, or feel positively whenever certain clichés are uttered? Certainly not beyond the pale in China and cannot be ruled out elsewhere. Western nations have had their bouts of indoctrination, too.

Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by slx26 on Sunday October 31, 2021 @07:58AM (#29056358)
I mean, it's a bit the dilemma posed in Brave New World: what if we can create a veil that restricts our views / thoughts, but in exchange grants us happiness? When someone, for any reason, breaks out that veil, the realization that happiness only exists behind the veil and the lies is quite shocking and unacceptable for us as humans: the very realization that our happiness is built on top of lies will make us unhappy, and seeing it from the outside will often make us claim that that's a false/fake happiness.

But then, what about religion, or blind optimism, or the innocence of children? About ignorance itself? Is it acceptable to let people choose their own veils, but not to have them imposed? And if everyone accepts a certain lie, is that fair to the remaining minorities?

That's what happens when you let evolution run wild. We might have the desire to be good to others and ourselves, but we don't have the power to go all the way through.

Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by taneq on Sunday October 31, 2021 @09:24AM (#29056800)
> Western nations have had their bouts of indoctrination, too.

Does the U.S. still do that creepy Pledge of Allegiance thing at schools? From the outside that looks like straight-up youth brainwashing. :S

Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by imajoredinecon on Sunday October 31, 2021 @09:29AM (#29056830)
Is the Lord’s Prayer “straight-up youth brainwashing” too?

I went to schools in the US and UK where we said the pledge on occasion in the former and the Lord’s Prayer on occasion in the latter, and they both seemed like harmless traditions. (The UK school essentially had a religious cultural background, but turning us into observant Christians was most certainly not a goal of the faculty. Similarly I don’t think the pledge turns people into nationalists.)

Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by taneq on Sunday October 31, 2021 @10:33AM (#29057255)
Uh... yes?
Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by notgoodrobot on Sunday October 31, 2021 @12:42PM (#29058251)
If that's what both are, they don't seem to be doing what you're suggesting.
Re:Brain implant may lift most severe depression by klyrs on Sunday October 31, 2021 @01:43PM (#29058747)
I got punished in elementary school because I didn't say "under God" when reciting the pledge of allegiance. While these means aren't 100% effective, nonparticipation is noticed, is punished, and labeling children as "problematic" for insufficient or wrong religiosity / patriotism can snowball and stick with them for life.