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Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by DeathArrow on Friday October 29, 2021 @03:10AM (#29036037)
It's hard to discern where the truth lies. Who's wrong? Chevron? The lawyer? Both?
Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday October 29, 2021 @03:13AM (#29036055)
> It's hard to discern where the truth lies. Who's wrong?

If that's how you feel, then it's likely that a common and successful kind of propaganda has done its job. You don't necessarily have to be persuaded, you just have to doubt the normal conclusion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubt_Is_Their_Product

https://pluralistic.net/2021/06/10/flicc/

Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by sweetheart on Friday October 29, 2021 @04:02AM (#29036329)
They succeed not by convincing you they are right, but by convincing you that knowing the truth is really impossible.
Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by useragent86 on Friday October 29, 2021 @04:29AM (#29036469)
A phrase like "the normal conclusion" is itself propaganda, implying that anyone is abnormal who would have skepticism about whatever SideburnsOfDoom thinks; a thinly veiled shaming of, not even dissent, but mere neutrality and open-mindedness being faced with two parties offering conflicting narratives.

Imagine standing before a judge and saying, after he's heard the plaintiff's and defendant's cases, "Your honor, if you doubt the normal conclusion, it's likely that you have been swayed by propaganda."

Propaganda is everywhere, especially on the Internet. But of all the stories about which to imply that anyone who doesn't immediately choose sides against one party must have been propagandized--a legal dispute? Who's the biased one here?

Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday October 29, 2021 @05:01AM (#29036645)
> A phrase like "the normal conclusion" is itself propaganda,

Well, thanks for attempting to cast doubt on that.

Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by mxxx on Friday October 29, 2021 @05:23AM (#29036758)
Re:Chevron wins case to jail lawyer Steven Donziger by lcpriest on Friday October 29, 2021 @03:17AM (#29036083)
Chevron