Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by disparate_dan on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @10:45PM
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I know it’s way more than most people have, but $1.2M is not really FU money, at least in the US. It’s probably enough to take a gamble on, but it’s still not enough that you cannot be wiped out by bad luck or a significant health event while unemployed. And unless you are very young (and very lucky to have that much capital already) that $1.2M probably represents the gain from quite some years of work, and is critical as the basis for eventually gaining enough to actually be economically safe in retirement.
Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by medvezhenok on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @11:14PM
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There's virtually no amount of net worth that would save you from a plane crash or an auto accident either - I would say 1.2M is enough as FU money in 99% of cases. Whether it's enough for you depends on your risk tolerance.
Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by twelve40 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @11:32PM
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That's a huge blanket statement. Some people live under the bridge and to them even $1000 might be FU money. For the Bay Area, $1.2mil is enough for a family to scrape by if you have a house (on the way to getting paid off), otherwise that's not enough for a basic retirement and you are definitely on the hook to continue working, especially if you have (or plan to have) a family. If you say screw Bay Area and move to rural Montana, well, that's not 99% of cases.
Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by d3ckard on Thursday October 28, 2021 @08:02AM
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You seem to misunderstand FU money. FU money it's not about "basic retirement" - it's about "I do not have to worry where my next meal is coming from for next X months/years". 1.2M$ can do a lot in that department.
Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by medvezhenok on Thursday October 28, 2021 @01:10PM
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Yeah, FU money and FIRE are different concepts (although there are some overlap). The former is just about being able to quit a job whenever (with the expectation that you will find another one eventually)
Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by ac29 on Friday October 29, 2021 @02:11AM
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> $20M is retirement money. $1.2M isn't.
I live in a HCOL area, so I get this sentiment. But it doesn't match at all with actual reality in the US. The median 65-69 year old has a net worth of $272k, with the average being $1.25M [0]. A lot of places are pretty cheap - especially since even modest earners could get thousands of $ in SS each month.
[0] https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-net-worth-percentiles-b...
Re:The ‘semi-rich’: Millions of high-income Americans may no...
by bryanlarsen on Friday October 29, 2021 @06:38AM
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Retirement at age seventy requires less money than retirement at age forty.
Or at least it should be. Many people with $1.2M cannot go a few months without a pay cheque because it's all locked in a house and a retirement fund -- make sure you're not one of them. An emergency fund is the best way, but I also recommend having an open HELOC. They're a lot easier to get when you have a job, and you don't have to draw on them until you have an emergency.