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Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by atoav on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @08:55AM (#29012686)
My girlfriend didn't read the book, but liked the movie a lot. "Finally a movie that takes its time to show as a different world instead of taking it as a backdrop of the same stories", she said. And I am with her. I like movies that just want to take me to a place instead of firing me up emotionally with cheap tricks while using the scenario as an exchangable backdrop.
Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by yuvalr1 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @11:42AM (#29014771)
I read the book, my girlfriend didn't. We both agreed on two things:

1. The plot was moving too quickly and without enough context. She said she didn't understand much, and I can relate to that. If I haven't read the book I wouldn't be able to pick up with the plotline.

2. We didn't have any feelings towards any of the characters. We weren't sorry for Leto, we didn't identify with Paul, Jessica or any other character, we weren't even hating the Harkonnen.

All this led us to the conclusion that it was better to take things more slowly, investing more building the characters and context and getting people "onboard". This would have probably required to split the book into 3 films instead of 2, but I think it would have been worth it.

Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by Jtsummers on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @11:56AM (#29014988)
If you want a better adaptation, watch the 2000 miniseries version of it. It ran to nearly 5 hours and, contrary to this movie, your girlfriend won't have to wait two years to see how it turns out if she isn't interested in reading the book herself.
Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by batguano on Thursday October 28, 2021 @11:15PM (#29034776)
How can you watch the 2000 mini series version? I looked at all the streaming services and media vendors, and haven't found a way to get it. It does seem like Dune would be better served by a mini series....perhaps 10 or 13 hours of screen time for the first book.
Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by spurgu on Friday October 29, 2021 @10:37AM (#29038945)
Didn't you get the memo? The streaming industry fucked up, it's back to torrents again.

Edit: On DDG, search "dune miniseries <file-extension>", the second result has a working magnet link.

Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by Jtsummers on Friday October 29, 2021 @10:37AM (#29038951)
No idea, haven't searched for it. I bought the DVDs years ago. I just figured someone would have it out there on the Internet.
Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by yuvalr1 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @05:17PM (#29019266)
Thank you! I'll check that out
Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by q1w2 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @11:30AM (#29014619)
The 1984 movie did a better job of efficiently explaining what was happening.

Two good examples are the pain box and the slow blade penetrate the shield in training.

While the new Dune movie mention how they work - they just do a bad job of communicating that as effectively as the 1984 movie. To really appreciate this movie, you either needed to have read the book, or watched the prior movie (1984), or the TV mini-series'.

They also introduced things from the book, like how to walk in sand, and the visions of the jihad, but describe them poorly, and leave the viewer wondering why they're even mentioned. It's just badly written.

...but there were other issues with the movie as well. Long useless sequences of sand visuals that added nothing to the story - and that annoying scream sound that left our eardrums ringing, for no other purpose than to try to make the audience feel like an uneventful scene is somehow important to the plot.

A lot of people complained about the voice-overs in the 1984 film but they actually added a lot of value by efficiently introducing concepts to the viewer succinctly - especially the intro in the beginning which sets up the universe.

The best take on this universe after the book is actually SciFi channel mini-series in 2000 and then the Children of Dune in 2008.

Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by BoiledCabbage on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @04:41PM (#29018817)
While I'm not disagreeing with you, every one of your points is explaining things that could make it more informative - but not that necessarily actually make it a better movie.

All that you say can be true, each of those changes likely would make things more informative - but doesn't mean they necessarily should be added.

Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by neither_color on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @09:09AM (#29012819)
I've never read the book and what you and your gf say is exactly what I thought while watching it. I was really immersed by the world-building and visually delighted the whole time. I don't even remember some of what the plot was about, I dont care.
Re:“Dune” (The Movie), Annotated by inanutshellus on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @10:26AM (#29013702)
My wife, after the movie:

"SooOooo I wasn't excited to see this movie. I think I might have seen the old one, but I don't remember liking it. This movie though was amazing and now I'm just mad I have to wait two years to see the sequel!"