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Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by volta83 on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:02AM (#28999300)
> I personally cannot help but feel like the strong push for rust in the kernel is overstepping some sort of boundary.

As a Linux kernel developer, I feel like non-kernel developers like yourself telling me which language I should use is definetly overstepping a boundary.

I couldn't care less about what non-kernel-developers think about this issue, but "since you mention this": please do mind your own business.

> Why, if C is so bad, wasnt one of the alternatives introduced to slowly replace C in the kernel years ago?

Because we, as in the actual people that spend their whole day developing the Linux kernel *do not want* to write and maintain Linux kernel code written in these languages.

> The only reason there is a push for Rust so much harder than anything else can only be explained by the community and their almost aggressive spirit of "if its not written in Rust, it should be".

This is so wrong. We, Linux kernel developers, are already writing drivers and kernel modules in Rust, *because we want to*. We now want to merge this new code so that other devs and users can use it. Most other devs want this too, so now we added Rust support to the Linux tree.

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It really is that simple. My code, my body, my rules.

I really don't know what's so hard for people to understand here.

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by efdee on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:27AM (#28999540)
Words can't describe how poorly you come across here.
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by Xunjin on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:41AM (#28999655)
Well... indeed that was harsh. However I do understand, imagine you work with this (Kernel), know the "ins and outs" and someone wants to "put words in your mouth", this really feels disrespectful.

I'm not a Kernel developer, one day I might be (not smart enough yet), What I can do is express my opinions, concerns and thoughts about the future of the project, tho those who actually codes it, should be the ones to decide it.

Disclaimer: I love Rust so take my point of view with gigantic salty.

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by mratsim on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @10:26AM (#29000818)
The cited part was "I feel" and a question. I don't see any "put words in mouth".
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by rubyist5eva on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:34AM (#28999594)
Disagree. Insulting questions deserve flippant answers, nothing more.
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by junon on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:36AM (#28999608)
Your comment comes off as elitist and patronizing, for what it's worth.
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by mda on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:18PM (#29004958)
Wow, just unbelievable, "My code, my body my rules"? Wtf does this even mean?
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by volta83 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @05:20AM (#29011051)
It's a parallelism.

Somebody told them to get an abortion, and they just did. But I know better, I know what's best for them, and I know and I should decide what they should be doing with their body. They should not be getting abortions, nobody should, and I am sad and disappointed that this is happening.

Does this ring a bell?

Replace abortion with Rust, or a spoken language, or ...

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by koolba on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:32AM (#28999577)
> My code, my body, my rules.

… , my function body, …

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by gens on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:10AM (#28999375)
May I ask what you developed in the kernel ?
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by volta83 on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:14AM (#28999404)
Mostly I/O drivers for network and storage, and let's say "DMA-related" functionality.

Anything more specific than would probably de-anonymize me.

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by gens on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:40AM (#28999651)
That's cool. I truly wish you all the best in your future :).
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by proxysna on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:48AM (#28999718)
jeez, you need to relax. That was a normal question, no need to behave yourself like that.
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by hsn915 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @10:13AM (#29013518)
Is that what Linus thinks?

You know it's his kernel, right?

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by joshsyn on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:31AM (#28999569)
Why do you assume he isn't a kernel developer?
Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by volta83 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @05:14AM (#29011018)
Anyone who works in the kernel knows, that somebody dropping an email on the mailing list saying "you should rewrite your kernel in X" is not something that achieves anything.

The OP claims that this somehow happened for Rust. People from the outside managed to somehow "push" us to use Rust in the kernel against our will, they dropped an email and we somehow were fooled by this people and started doing it. The OP is "sad"/"disappointed" that this happened.

If the OP were a kernel developer, (1) it would be accusing itself of getting fooled (yet their comment does not seem to realize this), and (2) it would know that this is not how the Linux kernel community works.

Re:Writing a Linux-compatible kernel in Rust by theshadowknows on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:19AM (#28999460)
Who told you what language to write in?