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Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by jakecopp on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:21AM (#28998939)
> Purely on the content of the article: Given that the messages are not stored encrypted locally and that this service is connected to the US, I do not see how it can be viable for the privacy-conscious.

Matrix chats (direct and group) are E2E by default. There is no bridge that will let you keep E2E encryption between Signal/WhatsApp and another service - it has to be broken somewhere. I believe Element is a UK company.

The blog post on This Week In Matrix states it uses modified versions of the open source (and self hostable) Mautrix bridges which are primarily built by tulir [2] of Beeper [3]: https://matrix.org/blog/category/this-week-in-matrix#element...

> However, in addition to being a fast, snappy Matrix account, it also comes with unlimited personal bridging to Whatsapp, Signal and Telegram thanks to mautrix-whatsapp/signal/telegram!

[2]:https://github.com/tulir [3]: https://www.beeper.com/

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Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by krageon on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:24AM (#28999507)
> There is no bridge that will let you keep E2E encryption between Signal/WhatsApp and another service - it has to be broken somewhere

Yes, but it doesn't have to be stored plain on a completely untrusted (because again, the company touches the US - that is an ideologically privacy-hostile space) server. This makes data collection much easier, including data collection of data in the past (as opposed to only communication from a certain point in time, as with an ongoing tap of the machine itself).

> The blog post on This Week In Matrix

Thank you :)

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Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by jelv on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:44AM (#28999140)
From there Terms of Service: Where you read 'Element' or 'we' or 'us' below, it refers to Element, a trading name of New Vector Ltd., its French subsidiary: New Vector SARL, its U.S. subsidiary: Element Software Inc, and their agents. https://element.io/terms-of-service

So UK, French and US.

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