Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over...
by sam0x17 on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:34AM
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I don't think I've ever encountered a student lacking the intelligence needed to succeed (I find that to largely be a myth after mentoring hundreds of students... literally anyone can code) -- it's always external factors, like too many jobs, kids, not enough motivation, etc., that get in the way.
Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over...
by t-louie on Monday October 25, 2021 @07:52PM
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I think a lot of complaints would come from students that did succeed, whether by having previous programming experience or having the drive to overcome Lambda's shortcomings.
That's certainly the case for me - I landed a job after Lambda as a backend engineer, and I am/was extremely upset by Lambda's continuous deceptive language and degradation of their program
This is what I really wonder about - how many of the negative comments are from students not succeeding possibly because of unrealistic expectations around teaching (and what's actually required for learning). Lots of kids fail in college too (particularly in CS) where the attention given to students (and projects) is often worse.
I remember kids constantly complaining at University about how the teachers weren't good or giving them enough attention etc. etc. There's some truth to this, but it's also a common way people take away their own agency for failure.
There's some baseline IQ requirement (for lack of a better term) - LamdaSchool puts the incentives in the right place, but they can't magically get rid of that prerequisite and if their screening isn't good enough some admitted students will fail. At least that failure won't include tens of thousands of dollars in debt.
I think the outcome comparison needs to be with universities - at least with ISAs the incentive alignment protects students even when they fail.