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Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by 999900000999 on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:12PM (#28990369)
>The school recently sent him a letter demanding his banking information so that it could track direct deposits from a job. If he doesn't comply, it threatened to charge him his full tuition of $30,000 regardless of whether he gets a job.

How disgusting. He should probably tell them no. Even if they wrote some non sense allowing this in the income share agreement, let them go to court.

I've never met a successful boot camp grad who didn't already have a four-year degree.

This is a very complicated problem, because you really do have tons of desperate people who are willing to sign their lives away for a shot at getting ahead.

$50,000 is an extremely low threshold, so if someone adds a few extra shifts working at Best Buy lambda school can then leech their meager income?

I'd argue the social experience of traditional college is easily a part of its cost. If you're coming from a bad background you'll surround yourself better people than you met back home.

It's also much easier to get a generic office job with a bachelor's in art history than it is with a ux certificate.

Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by paulpauper on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:18PM (#28990456)
After factoring in all these huge fees and other hidden costs, traditional college is a better deal, and the degree is actuality valid credential, instead of a certificate, which is useless in the eyes of most employers. Plus, colleges have tons of financial aid with far less punitive repayment conditions or upfront costs.
Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by honkycat on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:52PM (#28990928)
Anecdotal: I went to an "expensive fancy" private college and I was lucky enough to have parents who knew how to advocate for financial aid.

In the end I ended up with +40k in scholarships as a mediocre high school student, plus a bunch of state grants.

I graduated with <30k of debt, which I paid off aggressively with my programmer job.

I like college. There is a right way to do it as an average student:

- Two years of cheap community college to get the chaff out of the way - Two years in a better school for the higher level classes.

You can't think of it is a party or 'summer camp' which is an image which is sold to a lot of young people. You are there to learn a skill, improve yourself, and graduate into a career.

Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by temp8964 on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:20PM (#28990493)
Can you explain why is this disgusting? Why the income share agreement is non sense?
Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by 999900000999 on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:26PM (#28990579)
They cancelled his program before he finished it.

Income share agreements are just disingenuous loans, eventually most people are going to get to $50,000 a year even if it has nothing to do with their education. At least a loan is upfront about what you're going to pay, I sure wouldn't give my bank account information to some sketchy company.

Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by eli on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:26PM (#28990574)
Was mandatory monitoring of your bank accounts spelled out in the agreement?
Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by mplewis on Monday October 25, 2021 @02:13PM (#28991196)
Send me your bank's routing number and your checking account number and I'll be happy to explain.
Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by temp8964 on Monday October 25, 2021 @02:14PM (#28991205)
What? Do I have any signed agreement with you?
Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by throwawaygh on Monday October 25, 2021 @02:30PM (#28991379)
Lambda School has no business knowing about:

* their students' alimony payments

* their students' other court awards

* their students' pensions

* their students' disability payments

* their students' spouse's income

* their student's spouse's alimony, other court awards, pensions, disability payments, etc.

Agreeing to payment is not the same as agreeing to financial surveillance.

If Lambda School believes one of their students is not living up to their income sharing agreement, then they should simply ask the student. If they have a reason to disbelieve a specific student, then they can go to court.

"Let me see all info on regular deposits into your bank account because I'm too lazy and unprofitable to do this in a way that's not creepy and abusive" is NOT reasonable.

Re:Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over... by zenithd on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:30PM (#28990625)
It's not the income share agreement per se. It's the request for his banking info. They weren't asking for a routing and account number, they were asking for enough access to track direct deposits.

There's no way in hell I'm ever giving that sort of banking access to an employer, let alone an educational institution. For starters, I share a bank account with my wife and her earnings are none of their god damn business.