Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by Jensson on Monday October 25, 2021 @11:45AM
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> The reason they were able to scale so large with so few devs is simple, their product was super simple. 50 tech people to build a messaging system is actually a lot.
Tell that to Twitter. Whatsapp staying at 50 instead of growing to 5000 is impressive.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by that_guy_iain on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:43PM
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Different product. One is a social media network and one is a messaging app.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by relaxing on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:58PM
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You say that now, but Twitter also began as a way to send a quick message to your friends.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by recursive on Monday October 25, 2021 @04:43PM
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You used to be able to use it as a way to create a free self-managing SMS distribution list. Pretty cool, before I had phone with data capabilities.
That was even a use case I understood. Now I feel too old to understand how to use twitter. But that can't be it. Much older people seem to have no problem.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by that_guy_iain on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @04:49AM
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Umm it quickly pivoted to being a social networking site. Before they even were trying to scale they were a social network, micro blogging site.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by EschatonCometh on Monday October 25, 2021 @07:08PM
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But, it wasn't built to scale like WhatsApp.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by jokethrowaway on Monday October 25, 2021 @06:42PM
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That's unfair, Twitter had to wrestle scaling with Rails while WhatsApp used Erlang which is a perfect match for scalable communications.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by stiltzkin on Monday October 25, 2021 @11:55AM
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How things would have work around if Microsoft released MSN Messenger for Android and iOS. They had the userbase and the brand already.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by billypilgrim on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:27PM
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Why didn't MSN become what WhatsApp is today? I always wondered how they could screw this up. Smartphones are perfect for chat apps, that's basically what they are supposed to be used for, and MSN / ICQ already covered a gigantic portion of the instant messaging market. Did they just assume people would stay on desktop for chatting forever?
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by ratww on Monday October 25, 2021 @04:55PM
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Good question. I remember Microsoft had an app around 2010, but it just failed to gain critical momentum, maybe because people were already moving en masse to Facebook and WhatsApp itself.
The app was only ok-ish. There were some alternative apps in the AppStore. But people just preferred talking trough WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger (which was already two years old at this point). I guess people gravitated to WhatsApp because it was less cluttered and snappier, and to Facebook because it also had a proper social network in it, but I have no idea. Two years later Microsoft would kill MSN and integrate it with Skype.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by math-dev on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:34PM
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Yeah Microsoft was too dysfunctional before, but they’ve improved a lot recently and are killing it in many areas
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by RF_Savage on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:29PM
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Yep. They ware the dominant instant messenger here.
They would have had a massive user base from day one.
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by Scoundreller on Monday October 25, 2021 @03:22PM
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Or AOL, but maybe it died out too soon?
Re:WhatsApp scaled to 1B users with only 50 engineers
by daanlo on Monday October 25, 2021 @04:01PM
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In my recollection it wasn‘t about saving 10 cents in the beginning, but about saving 1-2$ per message, since one of the first use cases it enabled was free international texting.
That was a HUGE benefit.
All the first evangelists I knew were in long distance relationships ;)
They had a year fee of $1. Which I never paid yet I used their service anyways. The reason they were able to scale so large with so few devs is simple, their product was super simple. 50 tech people to build a messaging system is actually a lot.