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Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by jakub_g on Monday October 25, 2021 @04:30AM (#28985652)
Semi-related: I've been to Uzbekistan before pandemic with friends. It was very fun. Country is modernizing fast but has some remnants of the old era, which make a fun mix. Very nice people; at the same time, the controls on rail stations are airport-like, with x-raying people and the baggage, triple checking the tickets etc (but it seems mostly pro-forma).

What was surprising is that they have very modern high-speed trains, and super new train stations (most of them built just a few years ago). The country is huge but very well connected by train (and air; we first flew to the far west, and then came back east by train and visited a few cities along the road).

For one of the trains we bought regular tickets, but the ticket inspector friendly insisted on us to get an upgrade to the "lux" class :) (probably the regular class was busy), which was a good decision; the upgrade was absurdly cheap, and worth it (4-people compartments, very spacious and comfortable) due to the length of travel (several hours).

Another fun story: in another train we've been in an "open space" w/o compartments; it had TVs on the room which first played Michael Jackson concert, and the some TV series :)

Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by Cthulhu_ on Monday October 25, 2021 @10:31AM (#28988228)
> What was surprising is that they have very modern high-speed trains, and super new train stations (most of them built just a few years ago).

Is this from the country being fairly rich and having money to invest, or is this part of China's massive infrastructure project?

Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by thealienthing on Monday October 25, 2021 @10:48AM (#28988421)
Several of the Stan’s such as Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan are quite wealthy due to a high amount of natural resources such as oil and coal. Kazakhstan’s main city capital Astana is incredible. It looks like a small Shanghai or Dubai and it’s all largely because of their wealth from oil.
Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by jakub_g on Monday October 25, 2021 @11:53AM (#28989243)
The country opened up a few years ago once the long-term president died and was replaced by a more progressive one. There was a moderate amount of western investment since - modernizing rail, telecom infra etc.

Also as mentioned by another commenter: Uzbekistan is more wealthy than other countries of the region; it's a major exported of things like gas, cotton, silk.

Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by baybal2 on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:39PM (#28989902)
> Uzbekistan is more wealthy than other countries of the region;

Absolutely not. Uzbekistan was the Central Asian version of North Korea.

The poverty was universal, and extreme.

And yes, a change from a braindead Kim Il Sung wannabe who boiled people alive to a plain idiot plutocrat could be considered a "change" to be welcomed.

Kazakhstan is by far the wealthiest Central Asian nation.

Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by jakub_g on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:20PM (#28990503)
I didn't say it's more wealthy than KZ. I was comparing to Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan. (Not an expert but it seems to me UZ is well ahead those)
Re:Across Kazakhstan by rail by yeetaccount on Monday October 25, 2021 @08:56AM (#28987228)
> x-raying people

mmWave or X-ray?