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Re:Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that ... by jqpabc123 on Sunday October 24, 2021 @08:26AM (#28977262)
... the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market.

The alternative business model is so simple and is already in place --- simply advertise based on expressed interest.

This is what DuckDuckGo is doing very effectively. Show ads based on search words. No global, privacy invading network required. Amazon is doing the same quite effectively. Their ad business is growing by leaps and bounds simply by showing ads based on search terms.

Re:Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that ... by beambot on Sunday October 24, 2021 @12:53PM (#28979674)
I'm not sure if include Amazon in the list of privacy conscious providers:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/i-found-an-amazon-folder-with-...

Re:Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that ... by S04dKHzrKT on Sunday October 24, 2021 @05:44PM (#28982216)
Agreed. I have recruiters reaching out to me on one of my older spam email addresses (in addition to my personal address). They are clearly doing some sort tracking/correlation.
Re:Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that ... by floatboth on Sunday October 24, 2021 @08:00PM (#28983113)
That's how Google used to do things back in the day! I still don't get how in the hell could personalized ads be more profitable. All I've heard is the "we'll keep showing you ads for toasters after you bought one because you'd buy another if the first one breaks" meme but where's the hard evidence on personalized ads getting more clicks?! Contextual at least intuitively seems to make way more sense.
Re:Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that ... by brianwawok on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:19AM (#28984474)
You know who the best person I could show an ad to? The person who went to my website but didn’t click buy.

Had him 99% there. Payback is great on these users.

If a few really did buy already? Who cares, beats showing the ad to a room of 20,000 random people

Re:Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that ... by webmobdev on Monday October 25, 2021 @01:23AM (#28984695)
> I still don't get how in the hell could personalized ads be more profitable.

It's because it creates a new profitable business model for BigTech.

Personalized ads require that the network collect as much data about you as possible. The idea is to use this data by trying to create some behaviour model to determine how and when a user purchases stuff. (Currently this doesn't really work as advertised, as you guessed).

But the US government, with PRISM, created a new revenue stream for BigTech - buying the raw data of the users directly. As with any government contract, this is actually way more profitable than serving ads to cheapskate internet users. Seeing how easily and successfully BigTech is able to get this data, the US has effectively decided to privatise spying (partially) to the BigTech. To sabotage the creation of regulation and privacy laws that may prevent such data harvesting, and to create an even more profitable market for the BigTech, they have also started to rope in other countries too. (See Five Eyes (FVEY) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes ).