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Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by Beldin on Sunday October 24, 2021 @05:24AM (#28976219)
In .nl it is more like 75% of admissions are non-vaccinated, and slightly higher for intensive care.
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by an9n on Sunday October 24, 2021 @09:24AM (#28977670)
Does that mean 75% of people that are hospitalised specifically due to effects of Coronavirus were unvaccinated?

Or does it mean that 75% of people that were hospitalised for any cause, and that then subsequently tested positive, were found to be unvaccinated?

There's a big difference between the two. It would still be interesting if it were the latter, as that might indicate vaccination was somehow protecting the vaccinated against hospitalisation for causes that weren't immediately identifiable as being related to Coronavirus. I mean, it could be the case that the unvaccinated were suffering cognitive effects of infection that made them more likely to be in car crashes, for example.

Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by Beldin on Sunday October 24, 2021 @10:15AM (#28978101)
> Does that mean 75% of people that are hospitalised specifically due to effects of Coronavirus were unvaccinated?

Yes, it means exactly this.

Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by aqme28 on Sunday October 24, 2021 @06:33AM (#28976592)
And the goal of a good vaccination rollout is for 0% of admissions to be non-vaccinated. It seems like NL is doing well.
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by pjc50 on Sunday October 24, 2021 @07:19AM (#28976851)
The more successful the rollout, the more the ratio goes up - this is counterintuitive, but happens because the number of unvaccinated people around that could possibly catch it in the first place becomes comparatively tiny.
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by aqme28 on Sunday October 24, 2021 @07:42AM (#28977012)
I think we might be getting our negatives confused. A perfectly successful rollout sees 100% of people vaccinated, so 100% of admissions are vaccinated, so 0% of admissions are non-vaccinated.
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by xwdv on Sunday October 24, 2021 @08:23AM (#28977244)
So basically you're saying that wherever hospital admissions are 95% unvaccinated people the vaccine rollout hasn't worked.
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by jleyank on Sunday October 24, 2021 @08:56AM (#28977469)
No, it’s working but vaccination has not been completed. And, depending on the location, it doesn’t look like it’s going to complete.
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by xwdv on Sunday October 24, 2021 @09:47AM (#28977849)
Ok, so what you’re saying is vaccine rollout is working if it’s 0% or 100%.

So what’s the failure mode? 50% I guess?

Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by aqme28 on Sunday October 24, 2021 @10:58AM (#28978505)
Can’t something just be in process before claiming it’s a success or failure?
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by AnonymousPlanet on Sunday October 24, 2021 @08:54AM (#28977456)
From "A => B" does not follow "(not A) => (not B)"

edit: swapped A and B by mistake, see comment below

Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by TrianguloY on Sunday October 24, 2021 @09:05AM (#28977526)
Hmm, logically speaking, yes, yes it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_(logic)
Re:EU scientists reveal long-term brain damage caused by Covid by AnonymousPlanet on Sunday October 24, 2021 @09:23AM (#28977658)
Haha, you're right! I mistyped. The left side should have been "(not A) => (not B)"