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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by ben-schaaf on Sunday October 24, 2021 @01:26AM (#28975221)
I wanted to look into this to see how they actually compare. A comparable thin-and-light laptop from Lenovo is the ThinkPad X13 (Gen 2). In the only manual I was able to find they have a small list of "Customer Replaceable Units" which is:

* Keyboard * Any M.2 parts * The cover assembly

And that's it. No battery, display, laptop body, CPU, ports, etc. From what it says in the manual this seems to be part of their warranty process, not for general repair.

> If you intend on installing a CRU, Lenovo will ship the CRU to you. CRU information and replacement instructions are shipped with your product and are available from Lenovo at any time upon request. You might be required to return the defective part that is replaced by the CRU.

After some more digging it looks like they do actually have repair guides for most if not all of the parts:

https://support.lenovo.com/au/en/solutions/ht510477-removal-...

And they do seem to list all the parts for that laptop:

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netb...

But the only things I'm able to actually order are the SSD and the power brick.

So it looks like the framework is a fair bit easier to repair (no popping key caps to unscrew the keyboard for instance), makes all their parts easily available (or at least it's easy to get notified when they become available), doesn't have 20 different versions for each part, but also doesn't offer the same kind of warranty and services that lenovo does.

Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by aspenmayer on Sunday October 24, 2021 @03:10AM (#28975570)
I think you’re wrong about parts availability. Search part numbers for any major vendor product on eBay and you’ll find just about any component inside a modern laptop for sale. Sometimes you can even find new parts, though that’s hardly necessary for repair. I’ve done consumer electronics repair for a while, and I’m not trying to be dismissive. I’m pretty sure Framework parts are going to be hard to find secondhand, and that is concerning for repairability.
Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by nikau on Sunday October 24, 2021 @04:29AM (#28975916)
Yep, framework is better in theory, but in practise the sheer volume of Dell/HP/Lenovo laptops means there are plenty of scavenged second hand parts available from aliexpress or ebay.