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Re:U.K. men get 4-year sentences for Facebook riot posts by Daniel_Newby on Wednesday August 17, 2011 @06:06PM (#2897154)
Having witnessed first hand the devastation and destruction in Hackney - most small business owners who lost pretty much their whole lively hoods would state that the sentences being handed out aren't enough - and I whole heartedly agree.

How many of those small businessmen shook their heads but did nothing over happy slappers and countless other creeping failures of the rule of law? Civilizations don't fall because the barbarians get strong but because the middle class stops defending civility. If the yeomanry do not guard their liberty, they abdicate it.

I'll stop writing here. If I go on I will start quoting The Boondock Saints and lose all credibility.

Re:U.K. men get 4-year sentences for Facebook riot posts by shazamjad on Wednesday August 17, 2011 @07:59PM (#2897440)
Couldn't agree more - in fact a group actually did stand up to them:

http://hackneycitizen.co.uk/2011/08/09/turkish-shopkeepers-s...

It's only recently in the UK that the law now favours the right to defend yourself and your property; before there was a perception of criminals having more rights having broken into your home than you ever did.

Re:U.K. men get 4-year sentences for Facebook riot posts by Gupie on Thursday August 18, 2011 @02:59AM (#2898290)
Has there been a change to the law? Can you give a reference please. I thought UK law has always allowed reasonable force to be used in defending your property..