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Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by SketchySeaBeast on Friday October 22, 2021 @05:12PM (#28962797)
If a mobs screams racist obscenities at someone is that a hate crime?
Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday October 22, 2021 @05:25PM (#28962942)
Screaming anything is not a crime.
Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by SketchySeaBeast on Friday October 22, 2021 @05:30PM (#28962989)
Well, that's not true. Death threats are. And my point was that, even though it may not be a crime, there's still someone who would be a victim.
Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday October 22, 2021 @05:53PM (#28963222)
> Well, that's not true.

If you want to argue that some spoken words can be prosecuted in some jurisdictions, chose another opponent. I state my personal opinion that anything spoken should be protected under free speech rights, and even the death threats. Yes, because words do not kill. Killing requires action, and actions must be stopped, not screaming.

Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by SketchySeaBeast on Friday October 22, 2021 @08:22PM (#28964445)
You didn't say "shouldn't be a crime" you said "is not a crime". And I'm not saying that words directly kill. I'm saying words have their own power that can absolutely hurt. Speaking words is an action and it can cause harm.
Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday October 23, 2021 @04:55AM (#28966786)
Politicians can declare anything a crime, and same act can be legal and criminal in places spaced 2 meters apart, that's why there is no point arguing about that. Regarding speech "crimes", see my earlier comment about Putin's Russia.

Thus, sane people MUST fight against criminalising any kind of speech, because speech is not a crime. Just like sane people fought against slavery, segregation and Holocaust, all of which were legal.

Re:Trump's new platform and the Affero General Public Licens... by SketchySeaBeast on Monday October 25, 2021 @09:08AM (#28987339)
Are you of the belief that words can never hurt? It wouldn't bother you to have a crowd of protestors making untrue accusations about you loudly and vocally, where your family and employers could hear, ruining your reputations and relationships?