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Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by pdimitar on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:22AM (#28957540)
Sure.

A better reply is: "I am here to state an observation and not to prove anything to anyone since it's not a court room. Believe me if you want, I'll not stick around to find out".

Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by rootusrootus on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:33AM (#28957722)
That amounts to taking a dump in the middle of the conversation and walking away. If you aren’t here to participate in the discussion why say anything at all?
Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by pdimitar on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:36AM (#28957751)
I said it, the other guy says he doesn't believe me. What discussion? That's the discussion stopper, not what I said.

I can't prove anything except say it. And it's your choice whether to believe it.

What's unclear?

Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by notyourwork on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:49AM (#28957948)
What's unclear is you are making pretty wild accusations and saying trust me because I said so. That's as good as any other unfounded claim made on the internet and it doesn't contribute value to the conversation.
Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by pdimitar on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:59AM (#28958079)
If you don't like it, report me to the moderators and let them delete my comment(s) if they feel you are right. As far as I am aware, I have a right to post anecdotal evidence without a huge legal trail proving that I am right. And it's your right to not believe it.

Why not stop there?

EDIT: And yes, this absolutely is one of the unfounded claims that can be found all over the internet. Have I claimed otherwise?

Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by adwn on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:26AM (#28957613)
Well, have you observed that behavior first-hand? Did someone you know and trust observe it first-hand and tell you about it? Etc. We don't ask you to "prove" anything, but some more information instead of vague hints would be helpful.
Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by pdimitar on Friday October 22, 2021 @10:31AM (#28957696)
I thought the standard benefit of the doubt implies that I am not here to tell stories just because I am bored.

I've known such people, yes, three of them. Law-abiding normal people whose only mistake was that they were in a hurry and were slightly rude to the police officers because of it.

Technically, each and every claim of somebody can be disputed to death. That's why I invoked your right to not trust what strangers say on the internet. Still, I thought it was a given that I have some exposure to the claimed phenomena.

Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by pbhjpbhj on Friday October 22, 2021 @11:18AM (#28958322)
Did any of your acquaintances do anything after their release in response to the police torturing/brutalising them? Go to the press for example, or sue, raise a complaint, etc.?

Reading between the lines you're saying torture/brutality following arrest for speeding has been the experience of 3 of your friends?

Aside, your combative tone really isn't helping make a useful discussion. Something like "I have no evidence, sorry" would have been far better than attacking people requesting evidence.

Re:Police can’t demand you reveal your phone passcode then t... by pdimitar on Friday October 22, 2021 @11:22AM (#28958367)
> Something like "I have no evidence, sorry" would have been far better than attacking people requesting evidence.

Agreed, and I started correcting afterwards. I thought it was super obvious that I am sharing an anecdotal evidence and an opinion. I reacted hostile to claims that I somehow have to prove either of these (and both aren't clear-cut facts).

EDIT: To answer your questions, no, they haven't pressed charges (and it wasn't speeding, it was "a routine check"). They were even let go on the oral condition that they'll not pursue.