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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by culi on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @08:04PM (#28938522)
This. I don't know why people think of the Mayan empire or Cahokia as fundamentally different from the numerous "failed states" of the Mediterranean. I use quotes because there's increasing consensus that it's not so much a matter of failure as a matter of political revolution amongst the enslaved class forced to work in agriculture for the ruling class

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