Re:Study: Recycled Lithium Batteries as Good as Newly Mined
by adamparsons on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @08:45PM
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Handful of states and territories in Australia are doing this, and while I like the idea I haven't found a single person who has returned their bottles (including myself), instead just absorbed the additional cost into their expenses.
Re:Study: Recycled Lithium Batteries as Good as Newly Mined
by vidarh on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @02:11AM
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Then it's not high enough.
The cost needs to be high enough to either get really high return rates and/or to cover the costs to society of undoing whatever damage is done by what is left.
Note that a key part is also that the most convenient option offered to comply needs to be to participate in recycling.
In Norway you hand bottles or cans in pretty much anywhere that sells them. Which means most people just bring them in next time they go to the grocery store.
If you require people to bring them to special recycling locations you should expect return rates to plummet.
Re:Study: Recycled Lithium Batteries as Good as Newly Mined
by dnautics on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @10:17PM
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This is basically what bottle deposits are in the US.
Re:Study: Recycled Lithium Batteries as Good as Newly Mined
by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @11:23PM
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In some of the US, not all of the states have it (e.g. near where I live Oregon has a bottle deposit, Washington doesn't).
So the default assumption is that if you do your job, the tax is more of a deposit. If you don't do your job, you, or rather your customers are still paying, and your customers can drive down the cost of your competitors by helping increase their tax offset if you make it a hassle to return things at yours.
By creating the presumption that you ought to be able to collect and recycle most of the recyclable products you sell (return rate for cans and bottles is well over 90%), the tax/deposit can be set fairly high. High enough and you create secondary businesses taking the hassle of returns for those who can't be bothered (don't want to return your bottle in Norway? odds are someone who needs the money will fish it out of the trash to collect the deposit), and there's a strong incentive for businesses to take back anything they sell subject to such taxes/deposits and deliver them to whichever scheme is approved to offset against their tax bill.
This sounds relatively close in principle to an implementation of what you're suggesting. with penalties etc. implemented basically by tallying up the tax per unit sold and then reducing the liability per unit recycled, so the penalty is simply the default if you fail to recycle.