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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by cronix on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:07PM (#28910056)
Hah, go back and watch Steve Jobs making fun of computing devices that use a stylus. He agreed with you on the losing things angle.

> Who wants a stylus? You have to get them and put them away and lose them. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELZK-Pow6fs

> Handwriting is probably the slowest input method ever invented. ... We reimagined it and what we're doing is completely different than what they (Microsoft) did. ... And what we said at the very beginning is if you need a stylus, you've failed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xPt8txgGs

Apple now uses styluses on their iPad Pro's.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by diebeforei485 on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:30PM (#28911275)
This was for devices that only worked with a stylus, so if you lost the stylus you couldn't use most features of the device anymore.

Modern styluses like the Surface Tablet Pen or Apple Pencil are for drawing and note-taking, in addition to still being able to use fingers on the touchscreen.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by FireBeyond on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:39PM (#28912128)
This is revisionist history.

In the keynote, he never mentions "devices that require a stylus".

He says "who wants a stylus? Yuck!" and "if you see a stylus, someone did something wrong".

This spin into "well _obviously_ Steve meant X" is purely personality worship, not borne of his words.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by diebeforei485 on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:55PM (#28912301)
> In the keynote, he never mentions "devices that require a stylus".

Back in 2007, if something came with a stylus, it was overwhelmingly the case that the stylus was required.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by mcculley on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:25PM (#28911203)
I think Jobs had a point about designs that require a stylus. There were many portable computers before the iPhone that required a stylus. iOS was designed with fingers in mind and then added a stylus for some kinds of work. This is similar to how the original Macintosh had no arrow keys and forced developers to design for the mouse. Later designs then added arrow keys.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by pdmccormick on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:12PM (#28911825)
Steve Jobs passed away 3666 days ago.