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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by kfprt on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:10PM (#28908914)
I believe the 3070 uses a different die from the mobile 3070. The mobile and discrete parts have completely diverged so comparisons are meaningless. Laptop GPU performance is entirely a question of power and cooling.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sarsway on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:35PM (#28909482)
In their charts, they showed it's about even (in performance, with much lower power consumption) with a laptop using a RTX 3080 (Mobile), which performs about as well as an RTX 3060-Ti / 3070 (Desktop). So that's pretty wild. More and more games getting playable on macOS too through native ports or emulation, so in theory you wouldn't need a gaming PC anymore. These numbers are for the M1 MAX though, which is a bit more expensive.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by MetricExpansion on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:56PM (#28909885)
Not sure where you’re getting that from? This [1] appears to be the machine they compared with (assuming the part number actually refers to a unique spec), which only has a 3050 Ti?

[1] https://psrefstuff.lenovo.com/Detail/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_...

EDIT: Nevermind, they mention other laptops in the other slides, some of which do have a 3080.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sarsway on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:16PM (#28910183)
It's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exM1uajp--A

@23:15 the high end laptop being a MSI GE76 Raider 11UH-053

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by MetricExpansion on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:24PM (#28910314)
Fascinating. I have pulled the trigger on an M1 Max to replace my i9 MBP, and wasn’t hopeful for the GPU.

But now I am VERY curious how well it will do at gaming using CrossOver Mac. I’d been eyeing a getting a 3080 laptop as a secondary for being able to do mobile gaming, but an M1 Max + CrossOver Mac setup might scratch that itch with only a single laptop. A fun experiment for next Tuesday.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by tdrdt on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:42PM (#28909606)
A desktop RTX 3070 is 50-60% faster than a mobile RTX 3070. Which ofcourse is understandable.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by mixedCase on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:52PM (#28909795)
> Which ofcourse is understandable

It really isn't. Nvidia should be using clearly differentiated model numbers to represent two completely different lines. They did this to intentionally confuse customers.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by ClumsyPilot on Monday October 18, 2021 @08:38PM (#28913634)
"They did this to intentionally confuse customers."

Same for intel, there is a huge number of people who were asking me why their laptop with a dual-core I7 is slower than a desktop with an I3

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by Macha on Monday October 18, 2021 @06:02PM (#28912360)
They even did for a generation, with the 10xx series.

But their partners probably weren't happy that the highest end laptop sku was a xx60, so here we are again.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by tdrdt on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:32PM (#28911292)
Yes the naming is very confusing but it is understandable that a desktop GPU can be faster than a laptop GPU.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by brigade on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:02PM (#28909980)
They're both GA104, but the desktop version does have 15% more cores enabled and 30% higher clocks.