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Re:The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U... by skinnymuch on Monday October 18, 2021 @12:01PM (#28906948)
Right and so what does saying this achieving? There is still so much nuance as to, in my opinion, make this fact practically useless.

There’s no breakdown of capital gains taxes. Or how much taxes are not captured because of loopholes or tax benefits that go to this segment or that segment of income level or wealth.

OTOH, I don’t know how many services come from local government that isn’t the federal government.

These are simplified examples/points. The point remains both the original stat and this one portray a skewed narrative.

I don’t think this changes anything for my original comment. One could say it even bolsters the case as it is another example of how misleading a quick stat can be.

Re:The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U... by xwolfi on Monday October 18, 2021 @01:05PM (#28907805)
But the thing is that if americans who don't pay taxes don't own stocks and americans who build most of the social system, the top 10% who pay all those taxes, also own stocks, it might compel someone to say... thanks, rather than "fuck you"... ?

I don't know, if you just redistribute ALL the wealth by murdering the 10% to the rest, what do you think will happen to the taxes ? What will happen to all that "the rich don't pay enough", when actually they paid everything, when it's time for YOU to pay ?

I think that's what all these people in the thread hint at.

Re:The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U... by skinnymuch on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:47PM (#28909703)
I know that’s what people believe and hint at. That’s the point of the original statistic. To give this distorted unproven worldview.

Who do you think does most of the work across the country?

Stock owners aren’t actually doing much. They also aren’t paying high rates of taxes.

why wouldn’t one of these people think why is income tax different than capital gains tax to the extent it is.

Or why their limited money doesn’t allow them to earn money just for having money. While those top 10% can avg close to 10% a year on their saved money in the form of investments (before inflation, fees). Yet there’s no wealth tax or any other way to not make things seem illogical that the mere fact of having money begets more money.

Can these questions not be asked before either thanks or fuck you.

Re:The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U... by MuffinFlavored on Monday October 18, 2021 @06:17PM (#28912526)
> the top 10% who pay all those taxes,

Do you have any sources around this info?

Re:The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U... by dntrkv on Monday October 18, 2021 @12:12PM (#28907109)
> There is still so much nuance as to, in my opinion, make this fact practically useless.

Agreed, and so is the title of the thread we are discussing.

> The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U.S. stocks

Re:The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U... by skinnymuch on Monday October 18, 2021 @12:50PM (#28907642)
Why is the title to the thread just as practically useless? It seems less useless to me. It is at least giving some semblance of the high levels of wealth inequality.