Re:Wrongfully Accused: The Swastika Is Not Hitler's Hakenkreuz
by collegeburner on Sunday October 17, 2021 @10:44PM
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This provokes an interesting question then, is it also ok for Christians to use this symbol? I am unfamiliar with its significance in the religion but it appears there was some significance well prior to the nazis, I wonder if it retains any use there still or if it is gone. Nazis had some more direct association with this symbol in Christianity so maybe it is sketchier than the Indian version.
Re:Wrongfully Accused: The Swastika Is Not Hitler's Hakenkreuz
by Ancapistani on Monday October 18, 2021 @01:04AM
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I own a quilt that my great grandparents brought with them from Germany, which is predominately decorated with hakenkreutzen. They came to the US in the early 1920s, so it was obviously not associated with Naziism.
I’m certainly not going to be throwing it away, and I’ve made a point to show it to my children and explain its significance. But… I’m also not going to be posting photos of it online, or putting it on display in my home. It’s a part of my family’s history that is very easily misinterpreted today, and it’s simply not worth the potential for offense or controversy.
I’ve got a Confederate flag, too, that was allegedly flown over the Arkansas state capitol during the US Civil War. It’s the “first national flag”, which I’m fairly confident most people wouldn’t even associate with the Confederacy without being told what it is. I’m still not going to be displaying it, for much the same reasons.
Re:Wrongfully Accused: The Swastika Is Not Hitler's Hakenkreuz
by shantnutiwari on Monday October 18, 2021 @06:08AM
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They tried to do the same here in the UK, until a few Hindus complained.
When the Olympics were announced in Tokyo, there was outrage on Reddit about how these Japanese were using the racist swastika as a symbol for their the temples. If course, a few people pointed out that its a religious symbol but they were drowned out by the outrage mob.
Re:Wrongfully Accused: The Swastika Is Not Hitler's Hakenkreuz
by rich_sasha on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:36AM
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Surely context is everything here, no? It’s not the topology of a Swastika that is somehow racist, using a Swastika as a link to the Nazis is. This is generally unambiguous too, in my experience.
I would say a good first-pass filter should apply a strong, but perhaps not overwhelming prior probability to the Swastika being a racist symbol.
The symbol was appropriated.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
https://www.thebuddhagarden.com/swastikas-buddhist-art.html
I’m certainly not going to be throwing it away, and I’ve made a point to show it to my children and explain its significance. But… I’m also not going to be posting photos of it online, or putting it on display in my home. It’s a part of my family’s history that is very easily misinterpreted today, and it’s simply not worth the potential for offense or controversy.
I’ve got a Confederate flag, too, that was allegedly flown over the Arkansas state capitol during the US Civil War. It’s the “first national flag”, which I’m fairly confident most people wouldn’t even associate with the Confederacy without being told what it is. I’m still not going to be displaying it, for much the same reasons.
Keep it, in its purity. Forget the thoughts of others, in its true meaning.
When the Olympics were announced in Tokyo, there was outrage on Reddit about how these Japanese were using the racist swastika as a symbol for their the temples. If course, a few people pointed out that its a religious symbol but they were drowned out by the outrage mob.
I would say a good first-pass filter should apply a strong, but perhaps not overwhelming prior probability to the Swastika being a racist symbol.
[1] https://www.jns.org/opinion/theres-nothing-peaceful-about-th...
[2] https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/12860418726710845...