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Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by ashtonkem on Saturday October 16, 2021 @03:42PM (#28890802)
That’s genuinely shocking and horrifying to me. Outside of coal mining areas, it’s viewed as a dirty and inferior fuel here in America. The idea of there being just stacks of the stuff where I buy my food is pretty hard to accept for me.

Outside of a specialist delivery company (“high quality bituminous”, heh), I’d have to travel to a feed & seed store in the nearby farm country to buy coal for heating ($9 for a 40lb bag of anthracite). They’re out of stock, but it’s not clear to me if that’s because of supply chain issues, or because nobody ever actually wants it in my area.

Meanwhile firewood is super easy to get. It’s available everywhere, including in huge stacks outside our grocery stores. I can even buy it from my city at $90 a cord, but it needs to be split.

Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by hutzlibu on Saturday October 16, 2021 @03:53PM (#28890891)
"it’s viewed as a dirty"

It is. I lived in a small town in a river valley some years ago: you couldn't open the windows in late afternoon, when everyone started to burn their dirty fires.

Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by stefan_ on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:25PM (#28892855)
That's funny, because you get the same thing with firewood and wood furnaces now. Not particularly better on the unhealthiness scale, either.

Actually, between people burning whatever looks wood-like and coal, I'd probably prefer the coal.

Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by ashtonkem on Saturday October 16, 2021 @09:00PM (#28893055)
You say that, but the EPA has been slowly tightening emission rules for wood burning stoves. Just this year the EPA is beginning to reduce the allowable soot emissions for stoves from 4.5g/h down to 2.0g/h. Old stoves are obviously a problem, but they’re getting measurably better with time.

The model I’m considering purchasing has an actual catalytic converter in it, just like a car, to ensure combustion is as complete as possible.

Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by stefan_ on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:10PM (#28893379)
And cigarette filters are 30% effective at removing solids from inhaled smoke. But you are still smoking!

It's 2021. Burning wood makes no sense from a global warming and certainly not from a public health perspective.

Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by throwaway0a5e on Sunday October 17, 2021 @08:29AM (#28895986)
Unless you can wave a magic wand and make alternative sources of energy sufficiently cheaper (or make people sufficiently richer, two sides of the same coin really) people are going to heat with wood where that is economically favorable.
Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by psd1 on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:27PM (#28911232)
Wood is carbon-neutral. Fossils aren't.
Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by hutzlibu on Sunday October 17, 2021 @06:29AM (#28895391)
Well, it depends how peope start their fires and what they burn. A clean burning wood fire, started well, is no big problem.

A badly started coal fire? That is bad.

Re:UK to put nuclear power at heart of net zero emissions st... by ashtonkem on Sunday October 17, 2021 @11:57AM (#28897375)
I think in 10 years it’ll be a requirement to have a catalytic converter on every stove.