Re:The problem with America’s upper-middle class and meritoc...
by nobodyandproud on Saturday October 16, 2021 @02:36PM
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It’s the 0.1% that drives the vast majority of the white collar profession.
Re:The problem with America’s upper-middle class and meritoc...
by AnimalMuppet on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:55PM
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Either evidence or argument would make your post more convincing. "It's so" doesn't move the needle in many minds.
Re:The problem with America’s upper-middle class and meritoc...
by seattle_spring on Sunday October 17, 2021 @01:16PM
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Why did you add this comment to parent instead of GP, which started this whole thing with a similarly unsourced claim?
Re:The problem with America’s upper-middle class and meritoc...
by AnimalMuppet on Sunday October 17, 2021 @04:19PM
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Well... I give the first person a bit more slack in that situation. Stating a claim can be interesting, even with no substantiation. (It isn't always, but it can be.) But a rebuttal that just says "no, it's not" is, in my view, considerably less useful or interesting or whatever. I expect more from a rebuttal than I do from a statement of an initial position - partly because not all statements of an initial position will get a rebuttal, but every rebuttal is in reply to a stated position.
Maybe that's just me...
The class position of the 0.1% (Vanderbilt heirs, Mars heirs, Koch heirs etc.) matters, but they themselves don't matter much. The bulk of the population are unskilled or semi-skilled labor, and ~10% of the population are in the professional-managerial class.
The efforts and ideology of a highly trained, highly educated, somewhat meritocraticaly placed vanguard matters, they are an existing social force, whereas the 0.1% is totally dependent on others for their position.