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Re:IBM and airlines won’t comply with Texas governor’s ban o... by jinpa_zangpo on Thursday October 14, 2021 @03:17PM (#28868711)
1. Vaccine mandates ignore the science by not recognizing people with naturally acquired immunity to Covid.

2. They ignore the science by not recognizing that the vaccinated also transmit Covid.

3. They are unjust because they do not recognize some people declined the second Covid shot after a bad reaction to the first and are therefore considered unvaccinated.

Re:IBM and airlines won’t comply with Texas governor’s ban o... by Latty on Thursday October 14, 2021 @03:34PM (#28868916)
1) Why does that ignore the science? The evidence I see is that studies are ongoing but generally show no harm from vaccinating those people, and increased protection. If studies show otherwise, then policy makers should change the mandates, not an inherent issue with the core concept.

2) This point makes no sense. Yes, of course they can, but at hugely reduced rates. Something not being perfect doesn't mean it isn't valuable or necessary. Seatbelts are not perfect, but they are mandatory because they save lives.

3) If someone has a medical issue with the vaccine, they are exempt from every mandate I have ever seen. If that is not the case, then change the mandate. It's not an inherent issue with the concept. They are the very people who most need mandates, as the people who cannot have it themselves need as many others to be vaccinated as possible.

Re:IBM and airlines won’t comply with Texas governor’s ban o... by m-p-3 on Thursday October 14, 2021 @07:50PM (#28871881)
1. Not true, my mother-in-law, who works in healthcare, caught COVID early during the pandemic, and received a positive test. The vaccine mandate recognizes that and her vaccine passport consider her adequately vaccinated with a single dose.

https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coron...

"you received a first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, or Covishield) at least 21 days after contracting COVID-19 (confirmed by a nucleic acid amplification test) and it has been at least 7 days since you received this dose;"

2. The jury is still arguing this one, but another aspect is that the more people who gets vaccinated, the lesser they risk going into the ICU and overloading the healthcare system.

3. There's a reason why they ask you to stay after getting the vaccine, to take you in charge of a medical emergency in case of an adverse reaction. That applies with any other vaccine, and if the first reaction is severe enough (according to a professional), they'll receive a proper exemption.

Re:IBM and airlines won’t comply with Texas governor’s ban o... by spaceisballer on Thursday October 14, 2021 @03:26PM (#28868813)
The jury is still out on natural immunity to COVID and how well it protects individuals. There’s lots of variability (same with vaccine immunity). The data are showing that if you had COVID and also got the vaccine you have robust protection. As to point two, the mandates aren’t about not spreading it, it’s about reducing severity and death. I guess because vaccinated or unvaccinated can spread it we throw up our arms? The mandates are that it makes us all safer (including mostly yourself). As to point three medical exemptions exist so not sure what you are going on about especially when you are talking about a very small number of adverse reactions.