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Re:Michelin Airless by xxpor on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:18PM (#28866315)
Hmm, why water filled? I can't think of any advantages, but can think of downsides such as a massive increase in unsprung weight.
Re:Michelin Airless by throwaway0a5e on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:22PM (#28866353)
Ballast for increased traction and tipping capacity with the positive side effect of lower COG.
Re:Michelin Airless by xxpor on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:28PM (#28866424)
Ah! That's a good idea.
Re:Michelin Airless by jet_32951 on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:46PM (#28866648)
The only springs on most tractors - ancient or modern - are between the seat and the frame to which it is affixed. IOW the vast majority of the tractor's total weight is unsprung.
Re:Michelin Airless by beauzero on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:32PM (#28867325)
Its easier to let the water out of a tractor tire than to take a 500lb wheel plate off...when changing a tire.

...added weight is for better traction. Almost all 2WD tractors will have their back tires filled with a water/radiator fluid mixture (ice doesn't work well if you want to keep the tire on the rim).

Re:Michelin Airless by handrous on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:33PM (#28866487)
Water's basically incompressible, if some Michael Crichton book I read like 25 years ago is to be believed.

My guess would be one or more of: the above; greater heat capacity; or, something to do with surface area vs. volume meaning that at a large enough size water in a tire is far lower-pressure and easier to contain than air at a high enough pressure to keep it inflated, and/or, relatedly, something to do with heat dissipation from compressing gasses being really hard to deal with once you hit a certain surface-to-volume ratio.

[EDIT] LOL, guess all these were wrong and it's just for the extra weight.

Re:Michelin Airless by 1-more on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:54PM (#28867615)
The book was Sphere. It rocked. I too remember this fact just from that.
Re:Michelin Airless by xmcqdpt2 on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:03AM (#28876474)
which was made into a movie

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_(1998_film)

that is confusingly similar to The Abyss,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Abyss

I always get the two confused.

Re:Michelin Airless by erik_landerholm on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:22PM (#28866358)
Re:Michelin Airless by LeifCarrotson on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:34PM (#28866506)
It's a lot better than the calcium chloride that they used to use, when a telehandler blew out a tire and drained hundreds of pounds of saltwater into my parents' lawn a few years ago it did a lot of damage.
Re:Michelin Airless by throwaway0a5e on Thursday October 14, 2021 @02:05PM (#28867749)
Beet juice is soooooooo much better for the environment than the salts it is replacing. Unfortunately it is slightly more expensive so we get to continue poisoning our waterways with salts.
Re:Michelin Airless by fergbrain on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:22PM (#28866355)
Re:Michelin Airless by bluGill on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:09PM (#28866997)
The only time they move fast enough to worry about unspung weight is when they are on a trailer.

That isn't strictly true, but in general such equipment spends most of it time moving very slowly it it moves at all. Transports speeds do become a problem, but that is only done for a short time (or you have it on a trailer so you can go faster) so nobody worries about the issue.

Re:Michelin Airless by dboreham on Thursday October 14, 2021 @02:04PM (#28867743)
Nothing is sprung on a wheel loader or a scaper.
Re:Michelin Airless by kazinator on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:54PM (#28867606)
A disadvantage is that only the rubber absorbs impacts, since the fluid is incompressible for all intents and purposes.
Re:Michelin Airless by robocat on Thursday October 14, 2021 @03:39PM (#28868972)
The tyre is only partially filled (for example 40%) with water - so the tyre is not “incompressible”. https://salesmanual.deere.com/sales/salesmanual/en_NA/tracto...
Re:Michelin Airless by kazinator on Thursday October 14, 2021 @06:01PM (#28870764)
I see. Furthermore, there is an admonishment:

IMPORTANT: Never fill any tire to more than 90% full. More solution could damage tire.

Re:Michelin Airless by cat199 on Thursday October 14, 2021 @02:56PM (#28868419)
... but for 'intensive purposes' on the other hand the story is less clear
Re:Michelin Airless by dboreham on Thursday October 14, 2021 @02:05PM (#28867756)
Sometimes foam is used rather than water.