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Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by avs733 on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:01AM (#28853034)
Because the engineering design doesn’t just prioritize cars it fundamentally presumes cars. If the result is something unsafe:

1) they will use individual responsibility arguments on drivers to blame them

2) blame pedestrians or cyclists or whoever for failing to defer to cars

It’s not a legality problem it’s a philosophy one.

Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by goodpoint on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @12:05PM (#28853948)
> It’s not a legality problem it’s a philosophy one.

This is not a dichotomy. The legal aspect comes from the "philosophical" one that comes for lobby money.

Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by avs733 on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @12:33PM (#28854289)
I agree, but I think for the purposes of this conversation it fits...laws emerge from the philosophy. simply making an effort to change the laws won't change the philosophy, it will just be an anachronism standing against the dominant philosophy.
Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by landryraccoon on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @01:50PM (#28855240)
This doesn't fully explain the phenomenon because stroads are terrible for drivers.

They cause congestion and are much slower than actual roads, while still being unfriendly to pedestrians and bikers. They're bad for drivers and bad for pedestrians.

Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by avs733 on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @10:52PM (#28860023)
This probably sounds pedantic but…they are terrible for drivers but they are good for cars. They are designed for cars not drivers effectively. They suck at vehicle throughout in a broad sense but they are theoretically more efficient than the other design options available.

The pramaterizarion is largely around the dynamics of the cars not human behavior. It’s the over algorithmization of decision making. It’s like YouTube radicalizing people by showing them videos that increase engagement. It’s not intentional in a strict sense, it’s just mindless adherence to a process without thinking.

Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by throwaway0a5e on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @02:41PM (#28855770)
They're cheap and they get land owners who want access to shut up. "there, you have your road, now stop telling us how to spend your tax dollars"
Re:AI predicts accident hot-spots from satellite imagery and... by landryraccoon on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @02:50PM (#28855868)
It's even worse. They're not cheap at all. They're cheap to build but expensive to maintain.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/2/5/the-true-cost-o...