Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by Tempest1981 on Monday October 11, 2021 @07:14PM (#28834167)

  > Senior engineers started quitting. 
  > The exodus continued.

Wasn't this already happening pre-pandemic?

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by mabbo on Monday October 11, 2021 @07:27PM (#28834246)

Definitely. But it's gotten worse, in my view.

The Toronto office (where I worked) is seeing a shift in the seniors vs juniors ratio. The rate of senior engineers leaving is exceeding the rate of promotion and hiring- not that Amazon has ever had an easy time hiring senior engineers in Toronto.

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by HenryKissinger on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:01PM (#28835608)

I'm curious. Why? Amazon pays competitively, and they're the biggest player in online retail and cloud services. Why wouldn't engineers want to work for them?

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by raydev on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:49AM (#28836505)

Anyone who does any research during their job hunt will read that Amazon has the worst work-life balance paired with aggressive/punitive performance reviews.

The other big names will pay you the same or more and treat you better.

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by pinewurst on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:52PM (#28835866)

Because their reputation as an engineering employer is awful?

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by CRConrad on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @03:52PM (#28844259)

Their reputation as an employer is as awful as can be. And why would anyone who knows how they treat their warehouse workers -- and who doesn't? -- think they're fundamentally a friend of any employee?

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by sam2426679 on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @02:23AM (#28836660)

exhibit a:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/09/my-wife-was-dyi...

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by mabbo on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @06:27AM (#28850450)

For the engineers that can pass Amazon's 'hiring bar', other companies will often match or do better on total comp. For a long time in Toronto they were the highest offer, but those days are over.

Amazon also has an on-call culture that - depending on the team - can be brutal. And it's often viewed as the team's own fault and problem to fix.

There are some really wonderful niches within Amazon that I will continue to refer friends to.

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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by EE84M3i on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:27PM (#28835745)

Amazon doesn't pay competitively.

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