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Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by zz865 on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:21PM (#28833241)
Is Amazon really such a bad employer? I've just started process with them now. I dont want to work for Facebook, there is no local Netflix and I'm probably not good enough for Google - Amazon is the only FANG company I'm realistically going to get.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by MatteoFrigo on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:22PM (#28833753)
Please be aware that Amazon will insist on a non-competition agreement. Depending on your seniority level and whether such agreements are enforceable in your jurisdiction, there is a high chance that this will limit your opportunities after you leave Amazon. Don't overlook this aspect when evaluating offers.

This is an example of how this interferes with the career of a very senior executive: https://www.geekwire.com/2021/microsoft-standoff-amazon-big-... However, this problem also affects junior engineers, more junior than you may think.

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by anonporridge on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:25PM (#28833291)
If you're good enough for Facebook, Amazon, or Netflix, you're plenty good enough for Google.

Google of today isn't the same as that of a decade ago. It's just another megacorp.

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by tinyhouse on Monday October 11, 2021 @09:15PM (#28834918)
Exactly. Two people from my company left to Google recently. Both are very average. We didn't even bother with a counter offer.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by vineyardmike on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:24PM (#28833278)
They're not that bad, uniformly. But they have a vocal cohort of people that had a bad experience. From what i see in my cicle, its not rare to have a bad experience, but its not uniformly bad. But often bad. It seems heavily dependent on manager and the team's combo of priority and funding and history of good/bad development (aka tech debt).

They have some good cultural points (easy to change teams) but also bad ones (bad on-call). So depending on your tolerance of WLB vs salary, and how good you are at shipping, you could have a good experience.

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by jkingsbery on Friday October 15, 2021 @01:12PM (#28880196)
I am currently a software engineer at Amazon. I obviously can't speak to other people's experiences at Amazon. And having never worked at any other big tech company, I'm not in a place to compare to them. But my own experiences at Amazon have been pretty good. I've been quite happy with my compensation and work life balance, which all have improved since my previous roles mostly at start-ups. There have been some stressful crunch times (Q4 tends to be stressful, between Thanksgiving-Christmas peak on the Retail side and Re:invent on the AWS side), but not more stressful from other big milestones at previous companies.

I have been lucky, in that I had worked with my first team's director at a previous company and so I knew he was a good boss, and I had known the manager for my second team prior to joining. It's important as part of the interview process (at Amazon, or anywhere else) to treat the interview as a two-way process, as you're vetting the company, the team, and your boss as much as they're vetting you, and if you don't get all your questions answered as part of the interview (interviewers are supposed to save time for you to ask questions!), feel free to relay them to your recruiter.

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by jnwatson on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:25PM (#28833285)
This is only a single data point, but I recently went through the whole interview cycle with Google, Facebook, and, Amazon, and I thought Amazon was the toughest interviews.

I have friends that work at Amazon. It seems that work/life balance varies quite a bit among different parts of it.

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by ferdowsi on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:23PM (#28833262)
Maybe you should back up and ask why you are limiting your search to those four/five companies?
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by zz865 on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:25PM (#28833286)
No other companies pay >250k in NYC.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by vesuvianvenus on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:28PM (#28833803)
Plenty pay >$250k remotely and in large cities such as SF and NYC-- For Engineers, Managers/Executives (Eng, Mktg, other), Salespeople, etc. You just have to ask for it. If you're unfamiliar, join TeamBlind.com

A company sent me roles at $125k recently. I wrote them back with a polite variation of "heck no, my rate is $250k".

I'm currently quite broke-- $5k to my name (too many sabbaticals, plus only recently paid off student debt and pivoted into engineering). But I bluff every time and sometimes it works out. Nothing to lose: there seem to be infinite employers in need of software engineers.

They wrote back to schedule an interview.

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by zz865 on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:44PM (#28833944)
250k I'm on already, its going up from there is the hard part.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by renewiltord on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @02:34AM (#28836735)
Put your email in your profile. I can do much better.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by comp_throw7 on Monday October 11, 2021 @10:41PM (#28835503)
Um? https://www.levels.fyi/comp.html?track=Software%20Engineer&r...

Excluding finance, there's Spotify, Doordash, Salesforce, Square, Twitter (incl. remote), Coinbase (remote), Palantir, Roku, Affirm, Robinhood... and that's just the publicly-traded companies that explicitly have offices in New York. You have even more options looking at companies that are either remote-friendly, or are late-stage startups with competitive equity grants (i.e. Stripe, Instacart, etc), or both (there's a lot of overlap between those two categories).

Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by sakopov on Monday October 11, 2021 @09:34PM (#28835056)
Does Amazon actually pay $250k. I heard from someone who works there that the salary ceiling for all engineers is $150k and the rest is compensation. Is this true?
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by rohitnair on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:48AM (#28836497)
Yes, there is a base cap of $160K ($185K for HCOL areas like NY and Bay Area), and the rest of the compensation is RSUs. For engineers who are senior and above, RSU based compensation will usually be more than 50% of their overall compensation.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by jnwatson on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:26PM (#28833295)
That’s not true. What about fintech?
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by zz865 on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:45PM (#28833477)
Any good examples? Yes there are some top end jobs that pay well, but the tail is thinner than the bay area. https://www.levels.fyi/Salaries/Software-Engineer/New-York-C...
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by AdrianB1 on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:22PM (#28833759)
It is all relative. In comparison with the other FANG companies, the people that I know told me Amazon has worse work-life balance and a more stressing environment, but it can be fine versus other companies outside the FAANG group, especially with the top compensation you get for that.
Re:Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefin... by tylerc230 on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:22PM (#28842414)
It varies like anywhere. My team at amazon is fairly low stress and there's no overtime (I've been here for a year now).