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Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by danaris on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:33PM (#28823670)
It's being paid very unevenly, because of our structure of funding schools primarily out of local property taxes.

We spend lots of money on education for students in wealthy districts.

We spend way less on education for students in poor districts.

Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by pmorici on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:50PM (#28823779)
This isn't true at all. Some of the worst school districts in the country spend the most on a per student basis. Spending is not correlated with educational outcomes. Baltimore City for example spends like 18k per student and has very poor outcomes. Private school tuition on average only costs like 13k per year per student in Maryland.
Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by eesmith on Monday October 11, 2021 @02:09AM (#28825274)
https://www.baltimorecityschools.org/setting-the-record-stra... under "March 9, 2021"/"We do not have the 4th highest per pupil spending in the US" points out:

> There are more than 13,000 school districts in the nation; Baltimore ranks at about 2,400 in per-pupil spending in the overall group. ...

> Baltimore’s spending is comparable to other Maryland districts but falls short of adequacy when factoring in the composition of the district’s student population ...

> o Baltimore has the highest concentrations of students in poverty and the highest percentage of students with disabilities in the state.

> o By the state’s own analysis, City Schools should have received $290 million more each year under the current formula.

> o A state-commissioned report indicates the district needs $358 million more to ensure adequacy for the city’s students.

On average, disabled students cost more to educate than non-disabled. Without knowing the distribution of students types in Baltimore City vs. private schools, a simple head-to-head comparison is meaningless.

Finally, you didn't give a simple head-to-head comparison.

You compared costs for the public school (funding / number of students) with tuition (funding by students).

Private schools may also receive funding through other means, eg, state-funded scholarships, or subsidized use of public resources like land and buildings.

Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by pmorici on Monday October 11, 2021 @01:34PM (#28830778)
Can you cite any study that shows that educational outcomes are positively correlated with spending even after adjusting for disabilities?
Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by eesmith on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:13PM (#28831841)
No. I'm not an education policy wonk.

(Plus, I don't see how the answer is not "yes". If we pay enough for a 1:5 teacher:student ratio then we'll almost certainly get better educational outcomes, yes? Which means I don't understand your question.)

I'm only pointing out what I believe are large methodological weaknesses in your earlier comment.

Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by jcims on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:46PM (#28823757)
Many wealthy areas dump their money into private schools and therefore don’t support high millage property taxes for public education. If you look around in Ohio at least, this generally evens the spending out on a per pupil basis.

The biggest differences are generally between rural and urban districts.

Re:‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are lea... by zenithd on Monday October 11, 2021 @01:18AM (#28824939)
> The biggest differences are generally between rural and urban districts.

Huh. I would characterize this more like "suburban vs. everything else, with some urban exceptions".

City schools have extreme bifurcations depending on their inputs; Boston Latins and Lane Techs exist but are notable precisely because they're exceptions to the general rule that city school systems aren't great.

Suburban schools are generally OK. Never nearly as good as the local population seems to think, but whatever.

Rural schools are uniformly horrible (but at least not as bad as the bad side of the bifurcated urban schools).

At least, that's my understanding.